Subj: Were there catastrophic Solar Events in the past?
Date: 6/23/01 11:06:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
(Tim Edwards)



Were 'solar-related events' (i.e., flares, CMEs, high-speed solar wind, ect...) responsible for the destruction of certain past (antediluvian) civilizations?

I have been contemplating this explanation for a long time, and from the available data, there is substantial evidence which suggests that this could indeed have happened in ancient times.

For example:

The following excerpt is from Plato's Dialogs (timaeus)
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html
[scroll about 1/4 down the page]

On one occasion,

     wishing to draw them on to speak of antiquity, he began to tell about the most ancient things in our part of the
     world-about Phoroneus, who is called "the first man," and about Niobe; and after the Deluge, of the survival of
     Deucalion and Pyrrha; and he traced the genealogy of their descendants, and reckoning up the dates, tried to
     compute how many years ago the events of which he was speaking happened. Thereupon one of the priests,
     who was of a very great age, said: O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is
     not an old man among you. Solon in return asked him what he meant. I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you
     are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is
     hoary with age. And I will tell you why. There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind
     arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other
     lesser ones by innumerable other causes. There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a
     time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to
     drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a
     thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the
     heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals;
     at such times those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than
     those who dwell by rivers or on the seashore. And from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing saviour,
     delivers and preserves us. When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, the
     survivors in your country are herdsmen and shepherds who dwell on the mountains, but those who, like you, live
     in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea. Whereas in this land, neither then nor at any other time, does the
     water come down from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below; for which
     reason the traditions preserved here are the most ancient.

     The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer does not prevent, mankind exist,
     sometimes in greater, sometimes in lesser numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours,
     or in any other region of which we are informed-if there were any actions noble or great or in any other way
     remarkable, they have all been written down by us of old, and are preserved in our temples. Whereas just when
     you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the
     usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who
     are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of
     what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves. As for those genealogies of yours which
     you just now recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children. In the first place you
     remember a single deluge only, but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that
     there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your
     whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived. And this was unknown to you,
     because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word. For there was a
     time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war and in every way
     the best governed of all cities, is said to have performed the noblest deeds and to have had the fairest
     constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.

The above texts state specifically that:

'There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes'

'There is a story, which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Paethon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.'

There have been specific discoveries of sand fused into glass in several different locations around the world, which would require extreme heat to be applied to the Earth's surface from some source. There have been discoveries of specific amounts of radiation - which have been precisely measured - that could also be attributed to solar events literally coming down through our atmosphere to the Earth's surface.

I think this idea needs much additional research. Although, in my opinion there is already enough substantial  physical evidence to justify a 'mainstream' scientific research effort to determine if such solar-related events have indeed occurred in our past (and if they're likely to occur in the future)

After I have accumulated enough additional material, I will attempt to make a valid case for a 'solar-related' catastrophe in Earth's ancient past.

Additionally, there are other interesting statements contained in Plato's Dialogues which refer to additional controversial topics. Although, I am only researching the 'solar connection' at this time.

I am interested in any comments or info you may have on this.

Thanks!

Tim

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