| SLEUTHS, please help
investigate:
"an American touchdown team raced to a site that was either a touchdown
or a crash by something, maybe a UFO. It took the group of 6 almost 45 minutes
to reach the location that NORAD has called in and the Canadians confirmed
equally as fast. When they reached the site, all 6 people witnessed a rather
large UFO, approximately 50 feet in the air, using a form of laser light
to carve into the ice more than 20 cm deep, the face of them along with another
wheel of information."
From the description the face is over 200 feet in diameter and is well
defined. And the wheel of information is double the size. The area has been
apparently cordoned off as they think that if anything heavy goes, they do
not want any media on this."
Enterprise
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Wonder if this is
related?
Notes
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The Crabwood Crop Circle Relationship
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National
UFO Center
Filer's Files
MUFON
ORGINAL
REPORT
REQUEST
FOR INVESTIGATION
Date: 8/28/02 12:16:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Sounds like a hoax, but I put my feelers out to those who tend to know
these things. If there's anything to it, we'll hear something oblique about
it within 48 hours. Whole thing sounds fishy. NORAD does not "confirm" UFO
sightings to MUFON guys. NORAD doesn't even confirm more mundane matters,
all in the interest of protecting against disseminationof knowledge as to
the reach and precision of their technical means of data acquisition, not
to mention the usual American military drill when it comes to UFOs. Interested
folks in Alaska report so far that they have heard nothing about this, and
they are monitoring all of the in the clear radio signals - no unusual activity
reported (obviously, that's not the last word on the subject, but it does
raise doubts that this is genuine).
Report came in on an Art Bell program. Discussed here at Enterprisemission
forum
http://forum.enterprisemission.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=004343
and a request to investigate on Elaines's forum
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=3510&topic=3&PHPSESSID=543c3d8578fd6b7d0935ea33717339c4
Additionally MUFOM might have problems of their own:From Filer's Files, re,
MUFON:
MUFON UNDER CYBER ATTACK --
Director John Schuessler writes: I think it is important for MUFON members
to know that for the last couple months the MUFON email site and webmaster
have received an inordinate number of virus-laden messages. The has been
a directed attack on MUFON by as of yet unknown criminals. Following the
virus attacks, several MUFON addresses have been used via spoofing techniques
by these criminals to send messages carrying perverted attachments. You may
be assured that if you receive one of these messages that it was not actually
sent by MUFON, and we would like to hear about it. Whatever you do, do not
forward any such messages to anyone. Instead, notify your email service
provider's security representative and request assistance. Filers Files,
Majorstar, MUFON East and similar addresses will not send out attachments.
Do not open any attachments, they may contain viruses. Thanks to John Schuessler.
[KENT note] Happening here too. Dozens/day of Klez-virus email attachments.
Here's one today from myself to myself. How the hell do they do that?
Subj: Yhdysvalloissa ja muissa maissa.
Date: 8/28/02 4:54:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: bardsquill@aol.com
To: bardsquill@aol.com
File: maissa..zip (58261 bytes) DL Time (TCP/IP): < 1 minute
Sent from the Internet (Details)
[I don't have the worm--Kent]
Date: 8/28/02 12:58:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Yeah, I noticed that and followed all of the links around the Web. So far,
it just seems to be this one guy talking. I wrote to Schuessler, as I suppose
you did, to make inquiry. Have not heard from him. Wrote to NIDS and Linda
Howe, too. Have not heard anything yet. My confidential sources know nothing
of this, but it may be too early for them to have gotten the word.
Only dogleg hit I've gotten so far is the bogey on the GOES 10 sat:
earthufo2.jpg
Most likely unrelated and would require an investigation of its own:
Discussed here:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40444
Kent
Date: 8/28/02 7:14:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Only dogleg hit I've gotten so far is the bogey on the GOES 10 sat:
earthufo2.jpg
Is the point of that picture that there is a faint, round object at the upper
left? It's a NOAA satellite image, right? It's probably the Moon, but one
would need to know when the image was taken and where the Moon was at the
time relative to the satellite. If one could be certain that the Moon could
not have been in the image at that time, the next thing to check is whether
the clock system for the photography got the time right. Only if those two
things were checked could we reasonably begin to speculate that it is something
weird.
Discussed here:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40444
Consensus there seems to be that it's the Moon. In checking the data described
above, you would need to be very certain of the integrity of your sources,
which, in the case of the time logging of the image might be a very hard
thing to do.
IM 8/29/02 4:54 PM PST
RESEARCHER:
hey
RESEARCHER:
got some links
for you
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_fulldisk_c01.jpg
-
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240030013i10_fulldisk_c01.jpg
- 3hrs later
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/239/2002239210014i10_fulldisk_c01.jpg
3hrs before
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/239/2002239180014i10_fulldisk_c01.jpg
6hrs before
RESEARCHER:
6hrs before (small
white dots in upper left ) has some sort of structured form on closer look
RESEARCHER:
just sent you 3
pics in psp format for you to look at
RESEARCHER:
have it on another
shot a few mins 14 mins later
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_nhemi_c02.jpg
RESEARCHER:
differnt camera
RESEARCHER:
and on this one
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_nhemi_c03.jpg
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_nhemi_c04.jpg
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_nhemi_c05.jpg
RESEARCHER:
not there 30 mins
afterwards
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240003015i10_nhemi_c01.jpg
BARDSQUILL:
looking
BARDSQUILL:
pasting them so
I can see better
RESEARCHER:
15 mins before
mian pic -
http://goes-8-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/239/2002239234514i08_fulldisk_c01.jpg
geos 8
BARDSQUILL:
any of the big
ones that has the whole bogey inside the frame
RESEARCHER:
no its not there
15 mins before
RESEARCHER:
30 mins after ists
not there either
RESEARCHER:
now all i can say
that there was an object reflecting sunlight that arrived at 11:50 Z and
was not insight by 00:29Z on the 28th
RESEARCHER:
of which the IR
shot does show heat
BARDSQUILL:
paste me the best
one again
BARDSQUILL:
where we see the
whole thing
RESEARCHER:
http://goes-10-rap.cira.colostate.edu/jpeg/240/2002240000014i10_fulldisk_c01.jpg
BARDSQUILL:
So the bogey appeared
and disappeared in 39 minutes?
RESEARCHER:
correct
BARDSQUILL:
It could not be
the moon I guess, eh?
RESEARCHER:
thats the next
thing im onto already located geos at that time sending you a pic
BARDSQUILL:
what is this
showing?
geoslocal.gif
BARDSQUILL:
location of GOES
right?
RESEARCHER:
yup
RESEARCHER:
at that 00:05:15
BARDSQUILL:
so is the moon
position displayed?
RESEARCHER:
not yet I'm gonna
find the location of the moon
RESEARCHER:
location of geos
10 at this time
GOES 10
35774 km above 0°16'S 134°46'W
RESEARCHER:
GOES 10
1 24786U 97019A 02236.13061630 .00000073 00000-0
00000+0 0 2954
2 24786 0.3124 275.6715 0003717 252.6166 76.0002
1.00277699 19543
RESEARCHER:
The Moon at 00:00
UTC 28 August 2002
Age of Moon: 19 days, 8 hours, 4 minutes
Phase: 78% (0% = New, 100% = Full)
Distance: 404299 kilometres, 63.4 Earth radii
Moon subtends: 0.4926 degrees
RESEARCHER:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/cache/2684.jpg
this is the image provided by
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth
BARDSQUILL:
summary lunar position
yet? Is it the moon?
RESEARCHER:
going thru all
the records
BARDSQUILL:
cool
RESEARCHER:
Moon 1h 57m 36s
+8° 18.6' 63.4 ER -79.273 140.933 Set
RESEARCHER:
moon
position on that day / time
RESEARCHER:
but i need a qualified
astronomer to calculated correct location in space
RESEARCHER:
Aim point RA: 3h
30m 33s Dec: +17°17'44"
Wed 2002 Aug 28 1:00 UTC
RESEARCHER:
sorry 00:00 UTC
RESEARCHER:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/cache/10897.gif
RESEARCHER:
now i have just
sent you a image of an overlay - please be warned im not a scientist
RESEARCHER:
and guessed
RESEARCHER:
and not to scale
BARDSQUILL:
back, had to help
my wife
BARDSQUILL:
last link no go
RESEARCHER:
just sent you an
email of overlay
BARDSQUILL:
ok
BARDSQUILL:
looks like the
moon then, eh?
RESEARCHER:
i think so but
need a scientist to confirm proper location
RESEARCHER:
if its in the wrong
location then i dont know what it is
Alien Face Crop
Circle:..Spinning the Disk
