6/7/02 6:39:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Full article at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthamnestyreconciliation/message/105

TIMOTHY JAMES MCVEIGH: DEAD OR ALIVE?

WHO SAYS TIMOTHY JAMES MCVEIGH IS ALIVE?
(i) Major General Paul LeBreton, USAF Air Command Liaison
(ii) U.S Army Special Forces Master Sergeant Michael (Last Name Withheld),
also known as John Doe # 3 of the Oklahoma City Bombing (told by the Army to
disappear after the OKC bombing).
(iii) Steve West, Secret Service Officer in the Office of Governor Gray
Davis.
(iv) Sherman Skolnick, www.skolnicksreport.com (The Secrets of Timothy James
McVeigh)
(v)Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)
(vi) SEAN DAVID MORTON, Speaking on Art Bell COAST TO COAST, March 3, 2001
(vii) McVeigh Execution Eye Witness -- Susan Carlson, Media Witness (friend
of Chandra Levy)
(viii) Too many hundreds of people living in 'militia' compounds around
America to mention, never mind all the MEDIA pundits who KNOW (BUT REFUSE TO
SAY SO)!!!

WHO SAYS TIMOTHY JAMES MCVEIGH IS DEAD?
The mentally enslaved mainstream (thanks to the media)-- Americans! Yes,
those poor people who are lied to, deceived, misinformed, disinformed and so
on! The one's that the politicians in Washington DC abuse, and are petrified
of! Go figure!

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WHO SAYS TIMOTHY JAMES MCVEIGH IS ALIVE?

(i) Major General Paul LeBreton, USAF Air Command Liaison

From: Paul LeBreton <wizzard9@earthlink.net>
CC: Timothy McVeigh <timothyjmcveigh@truth247.com>,

Date: Sun, Apr 21st 2002 20:09:01

Subject: [BRIEFING US ARMY TDY ASSIGNMENTS ]

FYI
For: Officers of Ground Crew Command...

>

General

>{SNIP}

>and wasn't Timothy McVeigh executed last year ?  So thought I!

>Major Feldman

Jeff

FYI  Timothy McVeigh just might have been snuck out of prison at the last
moment according to my FBI colleagues.    There are whispered reports over
the internet as to what really happened

Re: McVeigh and his present whereabouts...

FYI  I am not stating that Timothy McVeigh is either dead OR ALIVE:

JUST THAT HE HAS BEEN WRITING NEWSLETTERS SO SAY MY INTEL SOURCES

TIMOTHY CONTACTED MY CALIFORNIA NETWORK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND STATED THAT
HE WAS BACK IN ACTION!

FYI   I do not pass Eternal Judgement on Timothy McVeigh

(SNIP)

Respectfully,

Major General Robert Paul LeBreton

USAF Air Command Liaison
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(ii) U.S Army Special Forces Master Sergeant Michael (Last Name Withheld),
also known as John Doe # 3 of the Oklahoma City Bombing (told by the Army to
disappear after the OKC bombing.
(iii) Steve West, Secret Service Officer in the Office of Governor Gray
Davis.

Excerpt HARTS $10,000 Challenge to Mainstream Media & Corporations:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/truthamnestyreconciliation/message/29

CONFIRM THE FOLLOWING AS FALSE:

{U} On, or close to 1 December, 2001, in the lobby of the Office of Governor
Gray Davis, did I, Lara Johnstone inform an Officer (possibly former U.S.
Special Forces) that Timothy James McVeigh had
NOT been executed and that Mr. McVeigh had been a member of the U.S. Special
Forces? Did the Officer respond to my statements saying that (i) Mr. McVeigh
had NOT been a member of the U.S. Special Forces and that HE WOULD KNOW, and
(ii) that Mr. McVeigh HAD BEEN EXECUTED, and that HE WOULD KNOW? A few weeks
later, did a man named Steve West, in Governor Davis Office security detail
(i.e possibly U.S. Secret Service Officer) CHANGE THE POSITION of Governor
Gray Davis Office
(as mentioned above) when he informed myself, Lara Johnstone that Governor
Davis Office had RECENTLY BEEN INFORMED OF the fact that Timothy James
McVeigh HAD BEEN A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES SPECIAL FORCES, and that Mr.
Timothy James McVeigh had NOT BEEN EXECUTED? To conclude, did Mr. Steve West
state that the CORRECT information the
California Governor's Office had RECENTLY BEEN INFORMED OF was that Mr.
Timothy James McVeigh had (i) been a member of the U.S. Special Forces, and
(ii) NOT been executed?

Contact Governor Davis Office at: http://www.governor.ca.gov/
Or through the 'Write To Congress, the President or State
Legislators' at http://congress.org/

Comment: On 15 December 2001, I met with Mr. McVeighs former U.S. Special
Forces Officer, known as John Doe #3 of the Oklahoma City Bombing in a
Flying J Parking Lot in Phoenix, AZ. He informed me that he had been Mr.
McVeighs Commanding Officer in the United States Special Forces, that he
personally had been involved in the Oklahoma City Bombing, and that he had
been told by the U.S. Army to disappear after the bombing. He also informed
me that numerous other individuals were involved in the OKC bombing and that
Mr. McVeigh had NOT been EXECUTED, but had been granted a PARDON, and that
he had SEEN and SPOKEN to Mr. McVeigh, not long after the Fourth of July
2001 (i.e. AFTER THE ALLEGED EXECUTION). With Mr. John Doe #3 sitting next
to me in my car, I called the Idaho Observer and spoke to a journalist who
had written an article on the 'links between the WTC and OKC attacks' and
shared this information with him. The conversation took place on 15 December
2001, at approximately 10:00 am, from my Sprint PCS (who are US Military
sub-contractors) cell phone number (510) 823 8109. Sprint can be contacted
to verify the call occurred. The FBI were monitoring the call (in fact all
my
calls), although you'd have to ask them if they will confirm that. However,
the last question at the bottom of the list can confirm that I gave Senator
McCain authority to inform all intelligence agencies that they were given
permission to monitor all my actions twenty four hours a day. Considering
the number of people who have suspiciously disappeared or been murdered
relating to their investigation of the
Oklahoma City Bombing, I thought it would be STUPID to attempt to
investigate the issue without (i) sharing the information gathered with
those who may be involved, as an act of integrity, ethics and
SURVIVAL, and (ii) giving them permission to monitor my activities, so they
could corroborate the truth as to what I was informing both them and others
of. There are no doubt many who have many 'names' for
me, but those who consider me STUPID, will at the end of the day be the
one's with EGG ON THEIR FACES!

Sprint PCS - www.sprintpcs.com
Contact the FBI at www.fbi.gov or through other means.
Or Contact Senator McCain's Office through the 'Write To Congress, the
President or State Legislators' at http://congress.org/ or by other means.

In the period between 15 December and 30 December 2001, I informed the White
House of the information Mr. John Doe #3 had shared with me, including the
FULL DETAILS of who Mr. John Doe #3 was, what he looked like, as well as
supplemental information. I also contacted the FBI, the Bureau of Diplomatic
Security, the Department of State, the INS, Army Intelligence and NUMEROUS
South African and American media with this information. The ONLY OFFICE who
took it SERIOUS ENOUGH to ASK NUMEROUS QUESTIONS was the WHITE HOUSE! NOT
ONE of the other agencies or media asked ANY questions, rather they wanted
to get rid of me ASAP.

The FBI told me to INFORM THE MEDIA! I TOLD THEM I HAD! I also informed Mr.
Charles Keys of the Oklahoma City Bombing Investigating Committee, who at
first wanted to speak to Mr. John Doe #3, and then for unknown reasons
changed his mind, and attempted to avoid my phone calls, etc. I also
informed both the attorneys offices who had represented Mr. McVeigh during
his trial and appeal, namely Mr. Nigh and Mr. Steven Jones. Mr. Jones never
called back even though I called him repeatedly. Mr. Nigh finally called
back and was rather rude, I responded in kind, and told him he was a
pathetic excuse for
an attorney. I also informed Mr. John Doe #3 that I had informed all these
offices of the information he had supplied me with, and requested he be
willing to come forward and share the truth as to what he knew. He stated
that he was willing to do so, and that bringing for the truth about the OKC
bombing would eventually lead back to the truths about Kennedy Assassination
being revealed. He stated that he would travel back to Washington, D.C. to
see his Commanding Officer in an attempt to do so. The last time I saw him
was in early January 2002, when I dropped him off at a truck stop in Lodi,
California. I spoke to him a few times after that as he informed me of his
travels back towards Washington.]

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(iv) Sherman Skolnick, www.skolnicksreport.com (The Secrets of Timothy James
McVeigh)

See: The Secrets of Timothy James McVeigh:
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/tmsecrets.html

Excerpt:

[9] Sarcastic sorts even raise the question Was the REAL "Timothy McVeigh"
put to death? Or, for that matter, was ANYONE put to death in the death room
at Terre Haute Prison on June 11, 2001? They say, if "McVeigh" were given a
sedative to put him to sleep, and slumber, then how was it that at the end
HIS EYES WERE OPEN?
[snip]

On the day "McVeigh" reportedly was snuffed, June 11, 2001, cbsnews.com on
their website put the following sly statement "Media witnesses described
McVeigh as having a nearly shaved head, LOOKING OLDER, and thinner than in
previous encounters with the public" (Emphasis added.) Did CBS want to raise
questions with sharp-eyed sorts that maybe the REAL McVeigh was not the one
in the prison death room? Sort of Menu One blackmail? [A division of CBS has
supplied equipment and trained personnel to the American CIA and the
Pentagon for military and espionage games planning and such.]

Other Skolnicks Report related to McVeigh:
McVeigh and 'Fraud upon the Court':
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/fatcourt.html
OKC Bombings -- Split in FBI? Further details:
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/okcity2.html
OKC Bombings -- Split in FBI? http://www.skolnicksreport.com/okcity.html
Chandra Levy Affair: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/claffair.html
Chandra Levy Affair, Pt2: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/claffair2.html
Chandra Levy Affair, Pt3: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/claffair3.html

RE: Waco: See Waco and US Military: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/waco.html

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v)Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)
(vi) SEAN DAVID MORTON, Speaking on Art Bell COAST TO COAST, March 3, 2001

http://www.delphiassociates.org/conspiracy/chandra.html

Excerpt:

"Two years ago, I was told by a friend of mine that is an agent for MI-6,
that Tim McVeigh would wave all of his appeals and want to be executed as
quickly as possible. I have watched in horror as all that he has told me has
come to pass.
"He also told me that McVeigh's death would be faked, and that he would be
taken to what is called a 'Valhalla Compound' as part of Project: Gaia, a
super secret witness protection program set up for those in the world of
international espionage."
SEAN DAVID MORTON, Speaking on Art Bell COAST TO COAST, March 3, 2001

See Bob Worn's note to the SHEEPLE at:
vahlala.htm
And to read Bob Worn's confessions on 'thinking' as written in AntiShyster,
go to:
http://www.geocities.com/tthor.geo/thinkersanon.html

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(vii) McVeigh Execution Eye Witness -- Susan Carlson, Media Witness (friend
of Chandra Levy)

Execution Eye Witness -Susan Carlson, Media Witness: 4 min. 27 sec.

"He appeared to be still breathing or what appeared to be shallow breathing,
even after being pronounced dead and his eyes remained open".

Note: Susan Carlson was a friend of Chandra Levy! It was Chandra Levy who
arranged her friend's access to the McVeigh execution.

(Windows Media Player) - See and hear this first! Execution Eye Witness
http://www.apfn.org/movies/mcveigh-lives.WMV

Okc boming cover-up:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc_coverup.htm

CIA + CONDIT + Chandra Levy + Timothy McVeigh
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=6430

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(viii) Too many hundreds of people living in 'militia' compounds around
America to mention, never mind all the MEDIA pundits who KNOW, BUT REFUSE TO
SAY SO!!!

As shared with me (Lara Johnstone) by Mr. McVeighs U.S. Army Special Forces
Commanding Officer relating to individuals on 'militia' compounds, and for
the MEDIA PUNDITS WHO KNOW, BUT REFUSE TO SAY SO -- read Sherman Skolnicks
'Secrets of Timothy McVeigh' above.

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WHO SAYS TIMOTHY JAMES MCVEIGH IS DEAD?

ALTHOUGH ALL OF A 'SUDDEN' THEY SEEM TO BE DIGGING HIM UP FROM THE 'GRAVE'!
ISN'T IT NICE WHEN YOU CAN ACCUSE SOMEONE OF BEING DEAD WHEN YOU KNOW HE IS
ALIVE, AND YOU DON'T GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF RESPONDING TO YOUR ACCUSATIONS!
HUH? COWARDS!

Following articles are shared in excerpts (with links to sources) or in full
below:

1. Lawmakers Skirt Report on McVeigh
Tulsa World | April 30, 2002  | JIM MYERS

2. The FBI Knew (BEFORE the OKC bombing) in '95, Why Didn't We?
The Indianapolis Star | May 25, 2002 | James Patterson

3. Clinton Administration Cover-Up of McVey [sic]/Mid-East Terror Connection
*** Insight Magazine | April 18, 2002 | Kenneth Timmerman

4. Ex-CIA agent believes in a John Doe 2 [in OKC Bombing]
Indianapolis Star | March 23, 2002 | James Patterson

5. Items in McVeigh Trial on Way Out
Tulsa World | April 17, 2002 | Robert Boczkiewicz

6. John Gibson Weighs In on OKC, Iraq, John Doe #2, McVeigh Again
Fox News | March 22, 2002 | John Gibson

7. Why Defenbaugh Did It (i.e. remain quiet about FBI mishandling of OKC
bombing files)
Oklahoman | March 20, 2002 | Nolan Clay

8. McVeigh,Nichols Attorneys React To IG Report
Denver Post | March 20, 2002 | Howard Pankratz

9. Iraqi Connection to Oklahoma City bombing
Insight Magazine | March 22, 2002 | Kenneth Timmerman

10. Oklahoma City/Mid-East Terror Connection
Insight Magazine | 19 April 2002 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

11. Schippers Says Dan Burton Will Hold Congressional Hearings on Possible
OKC/Middle East Connection
L.A Weekly | April 4, 2002 | Jim Crogan

12. State Sponsored Terrorism? (OKC Bombing and 9/11/02 Attack Suspects
Connected by FBI)
Fox News | March 20, 2002 | John Gibson

13. Statement of the Inspector General before the Senate Judiciary Committee
Re: OKC Bombing FilesSenate.gov | March 21, 2002 | Glenn Fine

For full articles see:



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Question for the MEDIA, and ANYONE WHO GIVES A FIG ABOUT THE TRUTH!

Does it occur to YOU, that I have shared this information, ESPECIALLY AS
RELATING TO MR. MCVEIGH BEING ALIVE, and NOT ONE OF YOU HAVE EVEN
BOTHERED -- JUST LIKE THE FBI -- TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND EVEN ASK A
QUESTION! WHAT KIND OF JOURNALISTS ARE YOU? What are you going to say when
you finally tell the American people the truth that Mr. McVeigh was NEVER
EXECUTED? Are you then going to tell the TRUTH that YOU HAVE KNOWN IT FOR
ALMOST ONE YEAR! INTERESTING HIS HOAX EXECUTION ANNIVERSARY DATE IS COMING
UP! IN THREE VERY SHORT DAYS!! EXACTLY NINE MONTHS AFTER THE WTC ATTACKS!!
YOU THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE HANGING AROUND TO SEE IF ANYONE THINKS UP SOME
KIND OF 'ANNIVERSARY' OUT OF THEIR ANGER AT MCVEIGH ALLEGEDLY HAVING BEEN
EXECUTED WITH NOT EVEN SO MUCH AS A HINT OF A FAIR TRIAL?

Shall we wait and see? And who shall we blame it all on? The tooth fairy?
President Bush? Lee Harvey Oswald? Saddam Hussein? President Clinton? Monica
Lewinsky? The CIA? YOU ARE THE ONES NOT ASKING ONE FUCKING QUESTION! How do
YOU sleep at night and call yourselves JOURNALISTS? And for those of YOU
jumping on the bandwagon of blaming it all on IRAQ -- maybe you'd like to
think about the fact that MR. MCVEIGHS COMMANDING OFFICER IN THE US ARMY
SPECIAL FORCES WHO WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN THE OKC BOMBING IS AND WAS NOT
INVOLVED WITH IRAQI'S, BUT WITH THE U.S. ARMY! SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
SUGGEST NOW? THAT THE US ARMY BOMB THE FUCK OUT OF ITSELF? INTERESTING
SUGGESTION! YOU IDIOTS! IF YOU WANT TO BLAME THE IRAQI'S INVOLVED IN OKC WHO
WERE NEVER CHARGED, THEN YOU NEED TO DO THE SAME FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST
THOSE BROWN ARABS YOU SEEM TO LIKE TO HATE SO MUCH -- AND THEY YOU! SEEMS
LIKE THE AVERAGE MARRIAGE!

As Kent Anderson, in his novel about a U.S. Special Forces Sergeant named
Hanson, said in his book titled 'Sympathy for the Devil' : "Without
marriage, husbands and wives would have to fight with perfect strangers"
(Hillbilly)

I guess even Hill Billy's sometimes speak profound truths, don't they? Maybe
he should have added 'perfect strangers, especially if they are brown Arabs,
or some other 'ideology' 'religion' or 'colour' than ourselves'?

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