12-12-04 Transcript from the KOPN RadioOrbit Mike Hagen show with guests Idaho’s NBC News Channel 6 meteorologist Scott Stevens & www.cyberspaceorbit.com webmaster Kent Steadman discussing weather modification.

“KOPN RadioOrbit, this is Mike Hagan, it’s about five [5] minutes to three [3] in the morning; and uhh, I’ve been having a little bit of technical difficulty with the phones. Right now I’ve got Scott Stevens on the line, I’ll bring him on in just a few minutes from now, but I’m having a little difficulty getting him and Kent on the line at the same time, and it’s the first time that I’ve ever had to do this three [3] way thing, so I’m going to figure it out at the next break, but uhh before then I’m going to do a little bit of background; we’ll talk to Scott, we’ll do an intro with him and talk a little bit with him and then try to get Kent back on the line, and if we can’t do it, we can’t do it, so that’s just the way it goes. So, let’s get right back to it here. Our topic, I want to do a little bit of background, out topic tonight is going to be weather manipulation and some of the things related to that, and I’d like to uhh just read a little bit of background here. There was actually a project back in 1996, there was something that we came across that Kent actually had posted up on CyberSpaceOrbit a long time ago, and it’s probably still there somewhere; but it was called, uhh, it was called ‘Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025’, that’s what it was called. And I’d like to read a little bit of that for you real fast here. It was actually a military presentation that was done by a couple of a, or a number of military personnel colonels and majors, people at that level officers. And it was quite an extensive report, and I’m just going to read the Executive summary here real fast and that should make it real clear, it’s many, many pages long the entire report, but this is the executive summary and it says, “In 2025”, and as an aside the dates on these things I always ignore; in fact usually when I see papers like this hit the public or hit the mainstream I usually assume that the technology that was involved in those particular papers is already operational, and that’s just me, but I just know too much about the past developments of some of this technology and how long it’s typically kept under wraps until it’s actually released into the public, and it’s usually released into the public when the technology is no longer the state-of-the-art, it’s usually released when the technology’s passé, and then it’s fine to tell everybody about it. So, anyway, I digress; “In 2025, US aerospace forces can "own the weather" by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications. Such a capability offers the war fighter tools to shape the battlespace in ways never before possible. It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures. The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather-modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map. A high-risk, high-reward endeavor, weather-modification offers a dilemma not unlike the splitting of the atom. While some segments of society will always be reluctant to examine controversial issues such as weather-modification, the tremendous military capabilities that could result from this field are ignored at our own peril. From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control, weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary.” Coerce, mmmm, I wonder how they might do that? Maybe with famine or something? “Some of the potential capabilities a weather-modification system could provide to a war-fighting commander in chief (CINC) are listed in table 1.” Now our current President considers himself a war President, he says it all the time. Now, this was written in 1996, and that was one of the lines from the Executive summary it says right here, “The following are some of the potential capabilities a weather-modification system could provide to a war-fighting commander in chief (CINC) are listed in table 1. Technology advancements in five major areas are necessary for an integrated weather-modification capability: (1) advanced nonlinear modeling techniques, (2) computational capability, (3) information gathering and transmission, (4) a global sensor array, and (5) weather intervention techniques. Some intervention tools exist today and others may be developed and refined in the future.” So, that’s the executive summary of ‘Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025’, and this is a United States Air Force document. And um, I’m going to read one other quote before we bring Scott on the air here, we’ll actually try to play a song at the top of the hour and then we’ll bring Scott on, I’ll try one more time to get Kent, and um, think about this before we get to our guest o.k.? This is a quote from a Department of Defense news briefing, this is Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, he was the Secretary of Defense under President Bill Clinton. And this is during a Q&A at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy, University of Georgia , Athens , Apr. 28, 1997. The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, as he was the Secretary of Defense, this is what he was quoted as saying, “Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves… So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations…It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important." That was Bill Clintons Secretary of State, uhh Secretary of Defense I take that back, William Cohen in 1997 talking about the possibilities of electro-magnetic weaponry and such being used in weather modification and those sorts of things, so, ahh, alright, this is Mike, you’re listening to KOPN RadioOrbit, it is 3:05; we’re going to get one quick song here on the air and then we’ll get on with Scott Stevens and hopefully Kent Steadman, if we can get him, get’m both on the air at the same time. This is Mike, apologize for the technical difficulty, but we’ll be back in just a moment. MH: Alright, this is Mike Hagen you’re listening to KOPN RadioOrbit. And I’ve got a couple guests on the line if I was successful here, and I think I was. My first guest is a regular on the program, his name is Kent Steadman, and all of you people who listen to the show regularly know Kent; he is the owner-operator of the incredible website Cyberspaceorbit.com, and uhh Kent are you with us here? KS: Howdy there. MH: There he is, and uhh, KS: Mike, Scott. MH: Yeah, and uhh, our next guest is uhh, the first time on the program, his name is Scott Stevens, and Scott is a meteorologist, a real, live TV weatherman up in the Northwest. He’s a guy that has been fascinated with the weather his whole life and went to school to learn about it and followed a path down that road. And it has led him from the weather room to chasing tornados and lots of interesting things, and now he’s on radio orbit tonight so, Scott, after the technical issues I’m very pleased to say hello and bring you on the air. SS: I’m honored to be here with you Mike, good going on the phone. MH: Yeah, I tell ya what, you know, this radio technology and the telephones you’d think everything else has gotten pretty good, but we still have problems with the phones it seems, and uhh, SS: There’s always something. MH: Yeah, anyway, it looks like we got it together here and Kent say hi to Scott there. KS: Hi’ya Scott. SS: Hi Kent. KS: I’m glad to talk to you. SS: You too, you too. Been a visitor of the sight for years. KS: Oh, have you really? SS: Oh yes, oh yes. MH: Well, that’s a good place to start. I think we’re going to mention that we’ve got a number of the things we’re going to be talking about involve imagery, and so people if you want to follow along there are a number of ways to do it. First thing you can just go to www.radiorbit.com from there you can just jump right over to Kent’s website or you can also jump from there right over to www.weatherwars.info which is Scott’s site. So we have www.radiorbit.com , we have www.cyberspaceorbit.com most of you are probably familiar with Kent’s site by now, and then Scott’s site is www.weatherwars.info . So, with that said, yeah, we got all kinds of interesting things to talk about tonight you guys. People know pretty much, Kent, about you and about where you’ve come from and we’ll, uhh, once we get going we’ll, uhh people will understand why you’re on the air with us with Scott tonight because you’ve been following a lot of this stuff for a long time as well. But, for people who don’t know you Scott why don’t you give us a little bit of background just real quick so we can frame out your history and what you’re about and how you got interested in all this stuff so, SS: I mean weather’s been an interest of mine since I was a kid. Umm, scouting was probably the one thing, doing the weather merit badge, and I got hooked up by one of the local weather men, one of the local affiliates out here in Idaho when I was what thirteen fourteen years old so it’s been in my blood since I was just a kid. And I’ve always kinda had the direction that I was either going to be a pilot or astronaut or weatherman. MH: Alright. SS: So either way I was looking up and I ended up a weatherman because I paid attention on career day and I would get to stay home at night sometimes and some jobs these hours aren’t too bad. So I ended up going to Kansas to go to school, which isn’t too far from where you are, and chasing storms and then did a couple a stints in Omaha Nebraska then Tulsa Oklahoma, Albany New York, and then back out here far far closer to home in the mountain west, and boy there’s a lot of information that came across me. You know I’ve always been the kind of a person that’s reading, I’m just always reading, things fascinate me that other people aren’t interested, I don’t know why but I just, my curiosity is insatiable and I wish more people were like that because this would be a, well it’s already an interesting place but I think it would be far more peaceful world. Just a lot of information came up about con-trails and chem-trails. Also in technology, Tom Bearden’s page about the ability to alter weather. And I don’t know that I took it all seriously; the information was out there and you can’t just dismiss something because you don’t have a great enough awareness to understand it. And so you file the information away in hope’s that in some time in the future that information has some importance to you, and that’s kind of what happened with me is that the pieces rapidly fell into place earlier this year about what was going on in the skies. All had a place, whatever project was out there, there was, there, it had, had a purpose, it had a purpose and had some place in this massive jigsaw puzzle that we’re all sitting down to here on the ground trying to figure out, trying to figure out. MH: Now, umm, was the reason that you started to pick these things out, do you think it was directly related to the fact that you are a meteorologist and that you were able to see things in the skies and pick things out that maybe the average observer wouldn’t recognize as strange or wrong? And you know what, before, you can answer that but I also, but go ahead and answer that question actually. SS: Well, the first thing that got me curious was that forecasting accuracy, I’ve always been good, I mean it’s just, it’s just a knack I’ve had, I’ve always been good at forecasting. MH: OK SS: And, we had a couple of winters ‘97-’98, ’98-’99, it was rough, it was brutal to get the forecast right. And ahh, it all came back to the models, the computer models were performing poorly over those of winters and even into this summer’s, the short range, two or three day issues, two or three day forecast, which should be a piece of cake in this day and age with this level technology, with this level of computing power with the data that goes into this; and I mean the science that has been behind it for 50 years is solid. But we were just miserable in getting things right and I think that was the crack in the door that made me curious that there’s something else going on; something just doesn’t, just doesn’t smell right, so, MH: All right, all right and currently, and you can talk about this as much or as little as you’d like, your, your; is that still a current position of yours, are you still forecasting weather right now? SS: Oh yeah, oh yeah it pays the bills. MH: OK, so that’s what you do for a living? SS: You bet, you bet. MH: All right. SS: You bet. MH: OK. SS: But there’s other things I’d rather do but this pays the bills for now [laughing]. MH: Right, and that’s your profession and that’s what you’re stuck with, OK all right I understand that. OK, ahh, now for Kent I’m going to talk a little bit real fast Kent about how, why all three of us are on the line together, and how that kind of happened and ahh, it starts with the hurricanes I think, would you agree? KS: Well, I’m kinda a spotter I, ahh, my background is the visual arts and I’ve always been interested in weather too; in fact, in high school one of our projects was to build a series of weather things, so I built an anemometer, a little spiny wheel that I managed to test the wind velocity out of old, Erector-Set parts, and then I got this wild idea one night to build something that would forecast the weather and I went down in my dad’s shop and I built this contraption not sure exactly what it was supposed to do [laughter], and then I presented to my science class and the teacher just about fell over backwards laughing, but ahh, I’m more of an imaginative type, my background is in visual arts, so my assignment is just to kinda look and see what’s out there and then fetch it back, dump it on the doorstep, and I’d seen some things that just give me a whole boat load of questions that I hope maybe the three of us can’t figure out here. For instance, we’ve seen ahh, ahh, we’ve seen like, the most amazing thing to me is I’ve been seeing kind of the geometric overlay on the weather systems now for quite some time. Like in the Atlantic we saw approaching the Azores, we saw a big opening in the normally amorphous weather pattern; there was this big pentagram right in the middle of everything. MH: Right. KS: And in the Pacific a couple of years ago we saw these set of concentric rings, kind of looked like a Moray pattern like a, you know when you take two pieces of screen door and you twist them around. And we’ve seen in the center of the hurricanes instead of an ‘O’ for a round center we’ve been seeing pentagram shapes. Now, I understand like ahh, sprinkling of bunch of salt on a drumhead and then broadcasting sound into the drumhead you begin to see a geometry that’s oft times you’ll see a geometric pattern as a result of the wave interference with the drumhead. So, it’s not totally puzzling to me how electro-magnetic, this electro-magnetic sea that’s over us now for the first time in history, and possibly manipulated by the Air Force and others. It might extrapolate into a kind of weird geometry. MH: Uh-huh, well that’s one of the things, originally,… there are a couple things, and I wanna do some definitions here first too, and Scott maybe you can jump in here in a second but, he mentioned already chem-trails and we’ve mentioned scalars, and I want to clarify some of this stuff so for the people that aren’t familiar with these things and what they are. But, just to sort of finish the opening thing here, what happened was Kent had put up, you know the first one was Isabel that blew us away was last year when hurricane Isabel literally had a pentagram scribed sort of inside the eye of the hurricane and that was of great interest but then this year when we had the hurricanes were just sort of coming off toward Florida just like a rail-gun one after another bang bang bang. Again, we were seeing all of these interesting geometries within the eyes of the hurricanes, but pentagonal for some reason it seems like, and I think as Scott said before he has been visiting CyberSpaceOrbit for some time and when he saw the stuff it certainly flagged him and then he got in touch with Kent, and then we all got in touch together; so that’s sort of why we’re all on the phone together here because it’s kind of was a congruence of a number of different events that happened but it’s been going on for quite awhile you guys, and regarding the Chem-trails Scott, 1998 I was living in Denver Colorado, that’s when I first saw them and I’ve seen them everywhere including outside of this country. What can you tell us about? first of all let’s do what we think they are and then maybe what they might be used for. SS: Well, the first thing and the most obvious explanation is that they are commercial aircraft. MH: Certainly. SS: and they fly and they leave a condensation trail, as we’re all taught. And that’s just a function of the relative humidity at flight level will determine the duration of the trail, very simple explanation. Many many days the trails just don’t appear because the air is so dry or the fuel mixture or whatever, they just don’t show up; and then other days the trails never dissipate. They’re painted down and that’s it, that’s probably a fairly accurate term, and they just simply float out and we get a veil of cloud cover, a milky hazy cloud cover, and depending on the environment that those trails are then sprayed in will determine whether how long they last, how dense they go, and so forth; and it all has an effect on weather hence climate. MH: So they don’t stay in their original form? They spread out, is that what’s happening? SS: Well, even regular Contrails will do that. MH: Right. SS: But it’s the sheer numbers of them and the planes in locations or in paths that are not commercial tracts here in the eastern Idaho we don’t get north-south traffic, south of us is Salt Lake City but you’re not flying down in a 747 from Butte Montana or from Regina Saskatchewan, you just don’t do that. So these craft are flying a grid pattern and they’re leaving Contrails which do not dissipate, and even in dry atmospheres, post-storm after a storm has gone through, is when the air is the most stable, it’s the driest; those Contrails, those Chem-trails will last longer than commercial aircraft, which in those environments there’s no trail at all. So they’ll eventually fan out or dissipate but they’re still leaving something behind, and you’ll see that as oil slicks in the clouds. MH: Right, now sometimes, and that’s one of the sort of the distinguishing factors is that when sunlight moves through these sometimes you get that sort of oily effect where it looks like where you almost see like a rainbow effect. SS: Yeah , and it’s not the entire spectrum of colors that we get through the refraction of rain droplets and a rainbow; it’s a little more skewed to the salmon-pinkish and then just kind of a pale green color. You’ll get other weaker colors represented from the spectrum, but those are the two primary ones and that’s how you can tell. And you almost get no, how do we call it, mid to upper tropospheric clouds between about sixteen [16] and 25,000 feet, you do not get cloud development that just simply doesn’t show that chemical or that color signature anymore. Every time you get the sun in front of those kind of clouds you’ll see that chemical signature, they’re there. And their goal is to keep it sprayed everywhere at every time. KS: The scope of the project just blows me away, I mean everywhere traveling around, I was in Santa Cruz out on the streets people were walking around and they were spraying over the top of everybody and people were watching and making comments you know, and uhh, it’s everywhere, it’s everywhere; and like you say here in Seattle the aircraft are really way up there and they’re not flying in necessarily to the Seattle Airport. And what alarms me, I don’t know exactly what they’re doing on a technical basis, but when I start reading certain patents and so on like the Eastland patent where they are intentionally talking about doing aerosol spraying for reasons I don’t totally understand except that Bernard Eastland is the guy behind HAARP, and if you link that to the Air Force paper that we’ve been reading recently and it might have something to do with conducting of electrical currents and creating some kind of weird atmospheric capacitor, but then I’ll just have to shut my mouth because I’m not sure I can [laughing/garbled]. SS: You know if they would share the information [unintelligible] for us then we could discuss it, you know with more, I don’t know, honesty? With more truthful information, rather than sitting down here on the ground and getting little snippets of information here and there, and trying to use conjecture and trying to use logic and trying to use our common sense to put together the story. MH: Right. SS: You know, and if they want us to discuss this openly and honestly then we have to be treated as citizens of this country and not herds. MH: Right, you guys you know, and Kent you mentioned the scale of the operation and I actually, I was in Europe in 2001 just shortly after the trade center disaster by the way, I was there in September of 2001, and my wife and I were in the southern part of France and the northern part of Spain in the middle of nowhere, we were on our honeymoon so we were trying to find places that were very difficult to get to and we did a lot of walking around and hiking around and stuff that I’ve got all kinds of photos that from our travels around Europe where this stuff is happening there as well, so I mean there’s no question about it, I mean that was like I say I started watching this stuff in 1998 so I was pretty familiar with you know being able to distinguish between the typical Contrails from an airliner and these other ones that are flying these grid patterns, Scott? SS: You know, I was a little slow to the game; I visited a lot of those [web] sites and had come across the information and I thought yeah yeah yeah, but until you see it yourself, until you see it, it doesn’t have quite the impact. You can see all the Contrails in the sky but until you sit down and take the time and figure out which plane is going where, where it might have come from; and living on the West Coast, or at least closer to the West Coast, you can isolate a lot of the directions of the traffic. And it was a big event for me July and August of this year. I started taking pictures, started taking pictures, and there was one plane August 28^th flying overhead early afternoon, the whole breadth of the wing of this 747 was glowing, I’m like OK that’s one of them. And from that point on every Contrail had my camera zoom lens put at it, and you take the pictures you take the pictures you take the pictures, and you come back shaking your head going do these guys ever sleep? How many planes did they have? 800, 900, a thousand? You know and every airspace that is open to NATO has this project going on, every single one. KS: Can you imagine that, that’s almost global. SS: It is global, it is global. But then the question is why? What is the intent? What are we intending to do by dumping these millions of tons of ghook in the sky? Is it reducing sunlight? Is it global warming? Is it biological, is it pathological? MH: Or is it technological? SS: Technological, you know, exactly. Is it to reduce the effects of scalar weaponry? Is it to reduce certain wavelengths of sunlight? Is it uhh, who knows? MH: OK, well that’s a good place to ask another question then. We’ve been talking about some sort of a project where planes are flying and either spraying or leaving something in the sky that’s not a typical Contrail. We also mentioned scalar. Kent, this might be one, well between the two of you, let’s try to come up with a reasonable definition of scalar and what that technology means, and whether it’s even real, and I’m not even sure that it matters to be honest. I had a guy on the air last week who was really discounting the idea of scalar technology, and he had his reasons or whatever, quite frankly I don’t have the uhh SS: C’mon, the establishment didn’t acknowledge that the Wright Brothers had flown for five [5] years. MH: Oh and I couldn’t agree with you more Scott, but what I’m saying is that regardless of the technologies something is happening, I don’t care if it’s SS: We’re beyond the discussion “does it happen or doesn’t happen?” It happens, we have to accept it, and we have to understand the technology and what it’s being used for; we have to get beyond the bickering about whether it’s real or not. MH: OK then, then let’s talk about that technology and what it is and how it works and all that stuff. KS: Do you want me to give my seat of the pants [explanation]? MH: Yeah jump in Kent. KS: Well, you know I asked around, you know every time I ask a question about scalar technology on my website I get all these letters saying it doesn't exist. Therefore, I think something is happening [laughter] because the reaction is so intense, you know it’s kind of like a litmus test. And so I asked some people, a friend of mine is ex-military electronic intelligence, and I asked him about it and he said well imagine two [2] rams coming down a valley on either side of the mountain range in combat and they come down to the center of the valley and they butt heads, bam, with equal force, and he says in one aspect it looks like the forces canceled itself out and neutralized itself, but in the other aspect there’s a tremendous amount of force. And he compared that to scalar technology, the ramming of transmissions in such a way that it creates a kind of super potentiality, in other words it’s I can only think of my high school physics, a kind of voltage that will pop up someplace else. SS: Well, what I tell people when I have to explain this, and at work I explain this to scout groups that come through, tour groups, I mean if you’re coming to visit me at the station we do a tour of the building we inevitably talk about weather modification. MH: Is that right? Now that’s amazing because I was going to say that some of the first questions that I’m going to have for my listeners is how does Scott even still have a job? And I wanted to mention that you are very open about the research you’re doing and you’re talking to people about it, so SS: Like I’ve said, either it happens or it doesn’t happen, we’re beyond the bickering – this thing happens and we have to understand it! MH: Right and we’ve got to talk about it. SS: It has to be discussed, and so if we begin with elementary kids, if we begin with the parents. You know there are just not enough people discussing what’s going on with this project. Scalar weaponry or scalar EM waves are longitudinal electromagnetic waves that are not attenuated by solid mass. The Russians, basically the project started in the late thirties and early forties when Stalin got wind that we had started the Manhattan project which resulted in two atomic bombs being exploded over Japan in ’45. They were behind that, but they said we can manage this project, we can build these weapons. But he told his scientists get me something else, get me something better. Literally boatloads of papers came into the Soviet Union from the U.S. from the western powers from universities from from from I mean it was research. And their scientists, thousands of them, poured over the papers, poured over the documents, looking for inaccuracies, mistakes, problems that didn’t get solutions. And they spent millions of man hours on this project, the equivalent of seven Manhattan projects went into the development of scalar weaponry; and what they did was mated quantum theory with classical physics [Grand Unified Theory?]. That connection has been made and has been made for more than, well was made more than 60 years ago. MH: Right, now I agree with you there certainly. SS: And western science has yet to acknowledge that, that our theory of the thermo-dynamics, conservation of energy, all of these theories are and remained flawed in textbooks taught to students today here in the states and in the western world. MH: Yeah no question. SS: and until that’s rectified we remain at a distinct disadvantage to the Soviet Union. So, what happened is they began developing this technology, the deployed these strategic scalar interferometers in the northern latitudes around Russia, and there are many of them; and what has happened is this energy can just basically be shifted around, you take the natural energy, the ambient energy that is within the earth’s atmosphere or its energy field, and you just move it from spot to spot, you move it where you want it. MH: So that’s the technology is being able to move it and put it where you want it? SS: And use quantum theory to do it. MH: Non-locality. SS: Yeah KS: So it kind of ahh, they produce an impulse of some kind and then it jumps through quantum space, is that what we’re talking about? SS: And can be released in different locations, it’s messy, it’s still messy, it’s not perfected, we have errors, we see mistakes. But it’s happened, and that capability, as computing power has grown and grown geometrically over the last forty years, enables them to overlay the entire earth with this fine grid, this fine mesh of cubes because it has to have depth. MH: Okay Kent, what have we been seeing in a lot of the imagery that we’ve been looking at? KS: Geometrics and solids, yeah. MH: And cubes right? KS: Cubes, yeah. SS: Cubes, cubes. KS: We’ve seen cubes, yeah yeah. MH: We’ve seen cubes in the sun for Christ’s sake. KS: We’ve seen the solar plasma form cubes [laughter]. SS: And that’s how the energy is taken from the fourth dimension into the third dimension, it’s realized through cubes. MH: Huh? Amazing. Okay, well look you guys, that’s a good place to take a break here I think. When we come back we will continue our conversation here with meteorologist Scott Stevens and Kent Steadman, and maybe we can look at some of the images, so I’ll mention the web sites again. The best bet for the images I think is to go to www.cyberspaceorbit.com and right at the top of Kent’s page there’s a link over to Scott’s page and Scott has a lot of stuff up there as well so you guys maybe off the air you can talk and, or we’ll talk and decide what we want to look at or whatever. But anyway we’ll come back and talk some more about all this stuff and look at some of these images; and real interesting stuff, both of you thanks again for being here this is gonna be great we have plenty of time to talk about this stuff and we’ll get deeply into it OK? SS: Sounds good. MH: Alright cool, back in a minute, this is Mike Hagen and you’re listening to radiorbit, it’s the twelfth of December and it’s about 3:35 am, we’re listening to Kent Steadman and Scott Stevens, back in a minute, in the meantime this is Break MH: And this is Mike Hagen and you’re listening to radiorbit. I’m on the line with my guest Scott Stevens a meteorologist from eastern Idaho and a TV weatherman as well; and Kent Steadman the operator of CyberSpaceOrbit.com. You guys there? SS: We’re here. KS: You might have heard me holler at my son, he was playing rock and roll music in the background [laughter]. MH: Naw, I had you shut down. I had you shut down, I know what to expect from you when you are on the air, I’m like I gotta keep my eye on Steadman, I wasn’t too worried about Scott but [some idle chatter cut out] MH: Anyway OK, so here we are, we got about a, we’ll do about fifteen minutes you guys and then at the top of the hour we’ll play another song and I will have to do a little break and then we can go for another half hour or 40 minutes after that and, so we got plenty of time so, OK where were we? We were talking about scalar technology. By the way, and I don’t care if I talk about this on the air, were you guys able to hear me when I was chatting with you off the air? KS: no, no MH: yeah see I figured, I didn’t want to pick up the phone because I’m afraid I’ll lose you because I’m so unfamiliar with this three way setup, so I thought I had a way to talk to you guys but it obviously didn’t work, I was talking to the air, so [laughter] KS: no, but you play great music. MH: well cool, OK I appreciate it. OK so where next? Where do you want to go? Kent I’ll let you kind of direct things for a minute here KS: I wanna see Scott’s imagery and his interpretations, I’m tired of looking at mine SS: [laughter] I know what that’s like. MH: That’s a good idea, well let’s do that, let’s go down to www.weatherwars.info. I’m there right now as well. KS: I’m clicking over there too. MH: I’m clicking away here just cruising down, I’m reading about the Yakuza and the Shinrikyo, whatever that is, the Japanese mob, oh my [God], and that’s all Bearden’s stuff that he’s been talking about for a long time. SS: He’s [Thomas Bearden] a brilliant man. MH: Why don’t you talk about Tom for a minute Scott. SS: I’ve had, I have since sent stuff to him but have not, he’s tough to get a hold of too, through his webmaster but I have not yet gotten anything back. However, there was somebody who did write after seeing my site and had a lot to share but communications were mismanaged and sporadic at best, and so I’m hungry, I’m hungry to learn what’s going on and what’s the potential of Bearden’s [studies/investigations are]; Bearden’s biggest fear is that we’re unprepared for this, what he calls asymmetric Warfare, meaning heavily lopsided warfare that has began again. Challenger and the Columbia space shuttles [were] taken down by this scalar weaponry, and I saw a piece on, I think it was National Geographic channel tonight, called mega-lightning, you know how they like to hype stuff, mega-storm, mega this, mega that, mega-lightning, and it talked about the research in the upper atmosphere of these Sprites, lightning that originates at about 53 miles up on average and then extends downward. And when we do lightning track, when we’re talking about severe thunderstorms many many of the lightning strikes are what we call negatively charged, but occasionally one comes through that’s got a positive charge, and that is a strike of lightning that is stronger than the others and originates in the ionosphere from one of these sprites. Where they went with this was completely a surprise for me; they took it to aircraft being struck by lightning and then downed, which we know is a risk for those who choose to fly these days, and then to an amateur astronomer outside of Marin southern California, when I think it was Columbia was reentering February one [1] last year, ahh reentering, and he captured a shot in his eight [8] second exposure of this square bit of lightning. And you know where we’re going with this, the square thing, is that this technology moves energy around [and] appears or manifests itself as squares and it took down this shuttle; so that’s one of the things it’s capable of in and amongst weather suppression or rain suppression, the stimulation of hurricanes and their steering, exciting or generating a charge along high-powered transmission lines for the electrical grid. MH: Hey ahh, is there a reason why the pentagram or the pentagonal geometry seems to show up too? SS: I think it’s the five, the issue with the number five more than anything; there’s just some kind of resonance that when hurricanes reach a certain velocity that that shape forms with in the eyes. And I went back even one more hurricane to Isadore a year before. MH: Or Isabella yeah. SS: Well, we’ve had Ivan, Isabel, Isadore MH: Oh, Oh, I’m sorry SS: and the other eyes and they all show this geometry. KS: I might mention here that with the hurricane Gene I was able to get an animation and we watched the pentagram walls of the eye of the hurricane mutate to a cube over like an hour period. SS: And the reason we use squares, or we can use cubes, is simple; we’re pushing energy, it’s like shoveling snow, you shovel it along a straight line and eventually you are going to get a break or sheer at the end of the shovel where you quit pushing and you get the squares, you get the other two lines that make up that push, as I like to call it, when we look at satellite imagery. So, you end up with these square pushes and you impart angular momentum by that push, and then the rest of the atmosphere will sweep on in and will continue to curl. Uhhh, squares, squares, squares, squares. MH: You know I’d like to add too, and Kent you’re aware of this, we’ve talked about this stuff before. But, the cube is also, in sort of an esoteric way, you know, the representation of three dimensional space and there are lots of interesting numeric ideas that are associated with the cube, the number six, the number seven, the number eight for example; you know a square has six sides, eight corners. SS: Sacred geometry. MH: Yes there’s a lot of Geo-magery [?] going on, OK. Good. SS: and it’s all intentional, I mean there is a respect for how energy is emerged, if you will, into this dimension from the fourth [4^th], and it emerges within these harmonics, within these shapes, and we recognize them as cubes, as pentagrams, as portions of triangles, or triangles within circles or triangles within squares, there’s a sacredness to the numerology that is discs [garbled], if you will. KS: There’s a rectangle called, maybe you’ve heard of it, the golden rectangle around the constant five, or the golden mean. And, of course you can make a rectangular solid out of it too, but the proportions within it are unique in that they kind of repeat themselves harmonically, and if you look at the mathematics behind it; like there’s a numbering system where you add each integer to itself as you go and you get what’s called the Fibonacci series. And if you look real closely within the Fibonacci series and you divide a number by its prior number you begin to see a kind of sine-wave happening as this wave goes up and below the straight line which would be 1.618 or the Golden Mean, and so there’s kind of a diminishing sine-wave that’s happening in there; so within certain kinds of, what I’m trying to say is, and this is from a visualist standpoint, in certain kinds of shapes there is an implied harmony which is implied frequency which is implied wave structure, you know. And, for instance, I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the weather manipulation takes place by broadcasting certain waves, sine-waves, that kind of build up like jumping on a trampoline, they build up in increasing force. SS: We’re plucking strings of different notes. KS: Pardon? SS: We’re plucking strings of different notes. KS: yeah, and if the strings resonate with one another then the effect I think can be quite vast, I mean compared to the original input, the energy. SS: and we see that, as you talked about in the Morey patterns within the clouds, within cumulus clouds, you see them within high clouds. And you see those resonances as they intersect with each other, cancel each other out, or line up against a boundary that has been put [up] to stop their propagation. MH: right, right. KS: I’m looking at some of your images now on your website and there’s a couple here that look like sort of magnetic lines of force as though if you had a magnet and shook iron filings over it it’d create these kind of parallel ripplings, and I don’t know what kind of energy patterns that I’m seeing, that in some of your [images], in fact I’ve seen it myself over in the Northwest, this kind of rippling energy effect. MH: I’ve seen that as well.

SS: And Kent, that’s the thing, everybody sees them; but unless you know what you’re looking at its just weather, it’s just the everyday [weather for average people], that’s the way it always is. But it’s not; it’s just not [everyday weather]. That first high cloud, basically the first picture on the site. MH: Let’s start with the first high cloud, it’s real cool actually, in fact it’s the one I chose to put on my website, and it’s actually a beautiful photo, but ahh, tell us what we are looking at. SS: That was one of about 80 I took that time; I took the dogs out for a nice little run, I always take the cameras with me, and ahh, this was a beautiful warm early November day, and the clouds, of course the planes were going back and forth, so there’s plenty for the grid to work with, you know as far as cloud particles and stuff to vibrate into existence. But umm, you could see the parallel lines coming at us where there’s two stems of this cloud, but then they branch off and they almost looked like the Fibonacci numbers, towards the top of the picture there is a portion of the clouds that runs level, it’s horizontal east west, but then there’s another one angled up at about 30°and then another one at about 67°. So, you have to, I have to not wonder if there aren’t these one divided by two, one divided by three, one divided by four, angles that show up within the clouds. But these cirrus clouds, were talking about a gas which acts like a fluid; you won’t get the bends, you won’t get these 90 degree bends and the hard turns that show up in high clouds these days. MH: Right, look at the lower middle part of that cloud right at the bottom part of it, it starts off going sort of left to right, and then you can almost see patterns that flow directly from, they make a right turn and go northward or go up. SS: and the two darker areas that do turn northbound, those two that run parallel, those were how the clouds started; and what’s happening there is that’s where the energy is collected, and the moisture once the ionization is turned on and the moisture particles begin to attract to these lines, these grid lines, the moisture attracts, condenses out, and then you’ll get this fine rain of ice crystals, and that’s what is flowing out of the bottom of those clouds. MH: Alright, so that’s what we’re seeing there, that’s ice crystals. SS: That’s ice crystals, but you have to, these clouds are forming in an environment of about 40 to 45% relative humidity, far insufficient, far insufficient to develop regular cirrus clouds; we like to see it 70, 75, 80%. And you probably get the letters too Kent, from people in the southwest or in California that say the clouds are just always muddy, they’re hazy; and that’s because we’re getting clouds, a cloud cover, that far exceeds climatological normals and far exceeds what would normally develop if nature were left alone. MH: Right, so a lot of this cloud cover, like we were saying before, is man made cloud cover that’s coming from whatever it is that’s being released by this massive project where planes that are flying nonstop over the entire country and all over the place apparently. SS: Right, the planes are seeding and the grid comes along that excites it, and then the clouds form, and then immediately we’ve seen a minimum of three to 5% reduction in solar installation. Sometimes, as the day wears on, the cloud cover gets opaque enough that you’ve lost ten to 15% of your inbound solar installation. By this same token at night you keep that heat in. So, whether it’s a longer term goal that we want to have the earth warmer and warmer, or if it’s just to prime the area for the next inbound storm off the Pacific or the storm from the Gulf, both could be accurate, both could be accurate. MH: Hey ahh, Scott, let me ask you one question sort of as an aside: as I’ve been watching the planes for a long time, has anybody ever determined what the significance of that X-pattern is, it seems like they always make an X, and for the life of me I’ve yet to hear somebody say ‘well this is why they’re always flying that particular [pattern]. SS: My gut is that there are so many planes in the sky they can’t help it. The other one is the ‘here look at me’ for/to the pilots to either for the minions below, or to the guys watching it on with satellite surveillance back in NORAD. MH: Right, I was saying it might be an identifier so they can say OK guys, it’s kind of a X marks the spot literally, you know. KS: I’ve seen like three X’s evenly spaced cross the [sky]. MH: Oh. Yeah, I’ve seen freaking uhh, like uhh, like umm a tic-tac-toe thing going on, you know where you’ve got a whole grid where you actually have squares you know and uhh, I’ve seen, I, I, I , it’s amazing actually, and if you go to some of the web sites of the guys that have really been photographing that for a long time like Cliff Carnocairn [spl], I mean man, it’ll blow you away you know, I mean it’s obvious, like Scott says there’s no debate anymore that this is obviously happening, it’s just a question of really because we don’t have that much information, we’re trying to piece together what the hell we think is going on. SS: Let’s say in one shift we have 600 airplanes flying, combination of 747’s, 757’s, even 767’s, that’s what the Air Force would love to have is a fresh batch of tankers. MH: Now why would you choose a number like 600 though, just to educate people. SS: Umm, three shifts; if we have an inventory of 1200 planes some are going to be refueled and sent right up, so let’s just say we have about half the fleet flying at a given time. So, if we take 600 airplanes and if they have a 5000 mile range before they need to be refueled, think how many miles will be covered in a ten hour shift or a ten hour flight, where doing a lot of painting. MH: Well yeah, and you know there have been some incredible of photographs actually, satellite photographs that have shown these huge grid patterns that literally cover big giant sections of the entire country. SS: There’s one on the site when we go into a [garbled whisper ‘let’s go into the discs later’]. MH: Boy, I tell you what, let’s, we’re just about at the top of the hour so we’ll do that when we come back. Break OK, uhh, it’s 4:00 [am] on December 12^th Sunday morning this is Mike Hagen you’re listening to radiorbit on KOPN 89.5 FM mid-Missouri source for in-depth news, diverse talk, music of the world, more than radio, community radio, it’s KOPN Columbia your imagination station and KOPN serving Hatten and High Hill and Kingdom city and Jefferson city and Bunsten and Rocheport and ahh, Wooldridge and Jeff-city, all around mid-Missouri. Thanks for sticking with me tonight, my guests are Kent Steadman and Scott Stevens, Scotts a meteorologist from eastern Idaho and a television weatherman there as well; Kent Steadman, of course, is the proprietor and operator of CyberSpaceOrbit.com. Myself, this is Mike Hagan, Scott Stevens a meteorologist from eastern Idaho and a weatherman out there as well, along with Kent Steadman from CyberSpaceOrbit, I’ve got both of them on the line here with me this evening and we’re talking about whether modification and what it all means. Hey guys. SS: Hello KS: Hey. MH: Alright, KS: I got a question for Scott. MH: Alright, go for it. KS: In one of your reports or one of your interviews on the Internet you were either quoted or paraphrased as saying that the weather systems are digitized. And I got on the horn to Mike and I said now what does that mean exactly? So, maybe you could discuss that a bit for us. SS: Well, we talked about these scalar interferometers able to project grids, the cubes, across the earth. And, when you’re in weather school and you have to digitize a sheet or digitize a radar map, what do you do? You overlay a grid across it and then put a value inside of that grid representing the data you want to quantify, whether it’s the strength of radar, whether its temperature, whether it’s pressure, or wind value. So, what I mean by the weather’s been digitized is that this cube, this grid has been overlaid across the entire earth. And a certain value is assigned to certain depths of the individual cubes. And if you’re supposed to have a storm then a certain lift will be assigned to generate the updraft to try to condense what moisture is there, sometimes it’s insufficient and we see ratty clouds or ratty bottoms of the clouds. Sometimes there’s sufficient moisture and you get a flood as the lift exceeds what Mother Nature would produce. MH: So, let me clarify something here; so we’re saying that basically the grid overlay that has been done over the entire planet, and even though they haven’t, they may not be as skillful as the operators, whoever they may be, uhh, although they’re not skillful enough to really get, they’re not perfect at it like you said before Scott, but you’re saying that they’re at least attempting to manipulate weather wherever they’d like? SS: Everywhere, everywhere. There’s a master program that runs; and we over here are trying to forecast what designs they have for the future weather, we’re trying to forecast an organization’s intent, because they’ve got basically the controls of this series of projectors, of scalar [weaponry] shooters, that will fire little bits here, little bits there, and it’s constant, it’s constantly working. And, ahh, you know, this energy can shoot through the earth, pop up, meet it’s interference zone, and then the grid is turned on in this lets say one kilometer by one kilometer cube, and we begin to get clouds forming; or we turn off clouds as was the case of Ivan as it came ashore, that whole southern eye wall of that hurricane collapsed even before landfall, and that I bet was our guys turning on HAARP and directing it at that inbound hurricane, trying to rain it out over the ocean before it made landfall. MH: Hey, that reminds me, that’s another question; people are inevitably going to ask, I have skeptics that listen to my show as well and I get e-mail from all these people and I try to reply intelligently when they ask me questions like this but, somebody will inevitably ask ‘where are the sources of this technology?’, in other words you just mentioned HAARP, maybe we can talk about that a little bit either now or later, but they’re going to say ‘where does it come from? How do they actually do it in the physical world?’, you know, is there a big machine, or is it a dish somewhere, or what is it? KS: I would like to see pictures of it. SS: I’ve seen pictures of HAARP but I haven’t seen what is over in Russia. MH: What do you make, Kent, of that? KS: Well, I’ve seen them in Norway and in Sweden they had big arrays over there, and I read about similar HARRP-Style antenna arrays in Russia too, but no, I haven’t seen them. SS: What HARRP looks like is simply twenty, like what 20, 25, 30 feet tall telephone poles or metal poles about 40 acres square, and you string wires across them and then supporting poles, you know, in a grid all the way through it. And it’s just this mesh of copper and aluminum wires. Remember, we’re dealing with relatively low frequencies, not microwaves, nothing that high, they’re fairly low frequency. Because the stated goals from HARRP is to deal with communications, long range at depth communications with subs, and that’s why naval intelligence runs this, that was the front. And so, ultra low frequency, umm, and those have very little trouble dealing with, with passing through physical substances. But scalar weaponry can pass right through the earth’s [core], heck these projectors could be on the moon, it doesn’t matter. KS: Oh, let me tell you something. MH: and they very well away be, they very may well be [laughing at gaff]. SS: It wouldn’t surprise me. KS: Oh, let me, I have to mention this now. I did get in contact with Bearden through one of his intermediaries, and we were watching the sun at the time and I asked this really close friend of Bearden’s to please ask him if there’s anything that could be done technologically on the earth that would, might effect even the sun, you know realizing that when we’re talking about quantum probabilities that they’re not necessarily limited to Kansas, you know. And Bearden replied back to the affirmative, he says “yes it’s possible with some of these systems to even create an effect away from earth, including on the sun. That blew me away; I had to go take a few deep breaths. MH: Right right, and that’s on the web site, I remember reading that, so once again I’ll repeat that for people that are listening if you wanna go look at this stuff log on to your computer and then go to www.weatherwars.info and page down a little bit and you’ll start to see those images, and also there’s some great stuff over at CyberSpaceOrbit.com including some of these e-mail conversations between Kent and lots of other people including this associate of colonel Tom Bearden, who of course is, we’ve been talking about his [work], certainly one of the experts at least in our country on this topic of scalar technology, so SS: and one of the few that will vocally express, and that’s a big part of it is [spreading the word]. There’s a mentality that it’s just not discussed. And this show, this mega lightning show, basically led us to, uhh the next step should have been, ‘and it was scalar weaponry that was responsible for this event’, and [instead] they said it [the precipitating causal factors] was unknown. They just, it was unknown if there was an infrasonic boom and then there was a lightning strike and then the shuttle blew, broke up. But people just don’t talk about those topics. KS: as we speak there are a lot of booms being heard over the East Coast right now, southeast especially over Alabama, window shattering events that are taking place and nobody knows what the heck’s going on. SS: Somebody’s playing with toys they shouldn’t be. MH: Right, alright well let's get on these photos a little bit further. The first one there we talked about that, let’s go down to that next one, and that one is another one that is a pretty, if you look at it closely you see some pretty interesting things, this is the one that you took apparently July 17^th, and uhh, the caption underneath it says an acceleration zone full of ripples. What do you mean by that Scott? SS: What I’m thinking is that these ripples – two things can happen with the rippling we’re seeing in the sky. They’re trying to, they’re using this snow shovel routine, they’re just kind of accelerating the air and that’s the push. The other thing is is that they may be trying to lift it as well, and as you lift it in – when you already got a cloud formed or a portion of a cloud formed you don’t have to lift it a whole lot more before it’s going to grow somewhat because the atmosphere above it should be colder. So, it’s either an acceleration for lifting routine, but in any case that creates instability which is cloud cover, and you see that on the top of the trees. But there’s also a darkening area within the center of that, and ahh, that’s probably a quantum issue right there. MH: Now, what about, a little bit, OK that dark in the middle if you look up and to the right of that you see a whole bunch of, like, streamers, there’s like five or six they look like fingers almost just coming directly straight out of that one area on the right. SS: and see, the technologies turned on and you see the streamers but then they, toward the edge of the picture they make a hard turn and then bend downward. MH: right right, just like we saw in that previous one except it’s an upward, yeah. SS: Same effect. It’s the origination point, is that darker streak that runs up and down, and then it’s the ice crystals that run out. And we’re going to talk about plus and minus, where the energy is taken from one area and deposited in another. The dark area in the middle of the picture is where it’s drawn from, and then ahead of it where we see the streaks originating from – it’s put there. And then it’s also put behind it where the rippling turns into just more of a solid cloud cover. We’re creating a current, we’re creating a current. MH: Wow, I hope everybody out there if you’re listening I hope you are taking the time, I know it’s late and I know you’re probably lying in bed saying no way am I going to get on my computer, but to appreciate some of this stuff you really have to go look at these, they’re amazing actually, and as Scott describes what we’re actually seeing, and that is what, Scott that’s why I appreciate so much you being here because we need somebody with your background and your understanding of meteorology to help us understand what we’re seeing here, because otherwise like you say it just goes, no pun intended, it’s just off our radar, you know. SS: It’s true. Follow the links, the mid-level clouds, below that picture we just talked about, and what will open up is another picture, these are fairly large pictures because I see so much stuff that is just cut down. MH: Kent do you see that? KS: Yeah SS: I mean we have rippling zones where you can see a portion of the storm is just, they’re creating angular momentum – you are imparting energy into a storm, and these are rippling tracks. Down below, the next picture with the conifers, the trees? MH: right right, right. SS: Yeah, I mean, just look at them. MH: Huh, just a right angle right above it, maybe a little bit bigger than a right angle but, 95, 100 degrees there. SS: We have dark amid the areas where the clouds have been punched out, the energy has been taken from it. MH: Hey uhh, you know, speaking of pine trees there was a story maybe a week ago, and it’s actually happened a number of times over the last few years, but just huge sections of forest in Europe getting wiped out, I mean streamlined winds they say are [causing this], who knows how fast, but literally flattening entire forests of huge acreage of trees, and that happened again in Eastern Europe last week did you see that story Kent? KS: No, I didn’t see that story. MH: Well anyway it happened in France, it’s been happening almost every year. SS: The Baltic states they had that big one about four weeks ago. MH: That’s the one I’m talking about, right. SS: You know and they talked about it being a hurricane, but a hurricane doesn’t happen at those latitudes and beginning over the Black, uhh, the North Sea, that just doesn’t happen. It was an impressive, without question, altered event. MH: And it’s happened in Germany and it’s happened in France, it’s happened in a number of European countries over the last few years, I’ve got a whole bunch of stories on it that I thought were just amazing because they say, and they never said hurricane before, they always say they are straight line winds. SS: One of the agendas of the Yakuza, of the owners or users of this type of technology, it’s called “Bleed and Disorganize the Dragon”, umm, many many cuts, some are deep and some are just paper cuts, but it’ll be a “Death by a Thousand Severe Thunderstorms, a thousand tornadoes, a dozen hurricanes”. And they’re very expensive in this date where all of these western economies are barely afloat, you know the insurance companies are, umm, let’s just say they’re fiscally challenged right now because of [garbled], it wouldn’t take a big quake in California before some of the re-issuance companies begin to have issues, and then it’s called “Bleed and Disorganize the Dragon”, so I anticipate more of these events. MH: Alright, so with that in mind, if we really are talking about, and we’ll get back to the photos here in the second because there’s some really cool ones I’m looking at another one right now actually and these right angles are amazing once you’re able to pick them out you can see them everywhere, wow. So, if we’re really are in a war, a Weather-War, and we’re being attacked with these weapons and we’re presumably using them as well, does that mean we’re trying to anticipate our opponent and trying to cancel out [their actions/offensives], is this sort of thing going on? In other words if SS: I think it would be foolish to assume that it weren’t. MH: In other words we have to be trying to protect ourselves somehow, otherwise you’d think these things would be happening, we would have the San Andreas [fault] would bust loose and ahh. SS: C’mon, we start wars, we start wars. This country has started wars now; but we know that if one is being waged against us we’re doing what we can to counteract it. MH: Certainly. SS: So yeah, there is a battle going on. MH: Sometimes, and maybe that’s the way we should look at it, when we see a hurricane that slams four [4] in a row that goes right into the same place maybe that’s when we go, “oh wow, that was a battle we lost, that was a breach in our security”, or something. SS: That was something outside of our technical ability to stop. MH: Right, we weren’t able to stop it. SS: Yeah. KS: I want to mention something too because the term earthquake came up and I’m looking at a report here that took place in Japan and the Ky [spl] university in Japan, and it’s called “Space-Temporal Variations of Seismicity Under Impacts of Powerful Electro-Magnetic Pulses” MH: Wow. KS: and it was an international conference with some of the main people were Russians and Americans and Japan, I mean they published this report for all to see on the Internet. MH: Read the title of that again Kent. KS: MHD Induced Seismicity, MHD is some kind of contraption here that I don’t understand, but it looks like the freaking Ark of the Covenant [laughter], like a box with a rod through it, you know they got a diagram, but it’s called “Space-Temporal Variations of Seismicity Under Impacts of Powerful Electro-Magnetic Pulses”, with a footnote “the use of MHD in weapons is endless with an effective MHD defense system in place it is possible to use magnets harnessing only the power of the air to create huge electric forces using eight to ten Tesla coils for defense would be made possible. Of course the field of high temperature superconductivity would have to be conquered”. But anyway, what they’re doing is they’re pounding on either side of the fault, you know allegedly to reduce tension within the fault line, they’re doing that out in the open for everybody to see. SS: That’s something that we all know and have been told that this scalar weaponry can do. In an endothermic mode energy is just dumped in slowly or quickly into faults, or into volcano calderas, and there is absolutely no question in my mind that that isn’t what happened to Saint Helens beginning September 23^rd. That event, that entire event was artificially stimulated, because you have the geologists literally standing there scratching their heads saying we have never seen this before, we’ve never seen it before [garbled]. MH: But, but somehow, somehow somebody must, either that was just a signal to say look at what we can do and we’re not going to do it fully or something stopped the SS: Shot across the bow. MH: Right, right that’s what you think it was? You don’t think it was that we all of a sudden said ‘oh, ok let’s’ and canceled it out or something? SS: Oh, no no no no, it was a Shot across the bow. MH: OK, alright. SS: [They’re saying] we can do this, do you want us to keep going? MH: Huh? KS: Boy oh boy. MH: Oh boy. SS: Oh man, there’s probably a whole game of espionage, counterintelligence and stuff that goes on that is I mean far above, far above what will ever make the nightly news. MH: Right, hey Kent you know I just want to add one more thing about the, that Japanese paper, the fact that they said temporal variations, that leads us right back to the quantum ideas that we were talking about before, so no doubt they are right out in the open about it. KS: Well I’ve got the whole thing on my main page you can all go, there’s a link called tectonic weapons you can read the paper, it was published freely for everybody, in other words it’s not secretive. MH: Right, right, right, right. SS: There was umm on the Today show, one of our secretaries at work, one of the new secretaries said ‘Scott I wanted to call you in the morning but it was early and you probably weren’t up’ and since I work late I wasn’t up so it wouldn't have done any good, but uhh, Michael Crichton was on pitching his new book discussing using weather as a form of terrorism. So, I believe there’s a concerted effort to begin, or at least to allow this information into the public domain. MH: Right, there’s no way Crichton does it without a stamp. SS: Exactly, exactly. And that’s why I’ve been let to do this; because I fully expected, fully expected something to happen, and nothing happened, nothing happened. KS: Well, how are your colleagues. Are they listening to you? SS: The ones that sit down and take the time, and I show them the evidence they come away stunned, literally stunned; and honestly, disgusted that they hadn’t seen it sooner, it’s so obvious MH: Well that’s their business, right? SS: It’s so obvious and one of the big things when a magician plays a trick, does a trick in front of the audience, the one thing we’d all like to be able to do is go back and stop action or slow motion and see what he’s doing with his hands. Where did that banana go, where did that rabbit come from? So what we do with the satellite imagery, what we do with the clouds is slow it down. You’re looking at animations, 3D, IR, whatever, they’re horrible resolutions on [garbled], absolutely horrible. And we play them at 30 frames a second or fifteen frames a second, and it goes by so fast that you lose nearly all of the scientific value of the data, [so] stop it, look at the highest resolution stuff you’ve got and examine it and then it’s a whole different world of forecasting, and that’s what is beginning to happen, is that people realize that we probably need to look at the one [1] kilometer infra-red or the one kilometer resolution visible imagery and there’s all sorts of clues there, all sorts of clues there that just you don’t see by just the cursory examination of the data, or usually in forecasting you’re looking at trends and not what is happening right now [but] what do we anticipate will happen. And so we look at cloud tops and temperatures, and is this form digging or is it Jet-max on the backside of the storm or is it on the front, and all of that stuff, but it’s honestly irrelevant. If the grid’s turned on the storm’s gonna go where they want it to go, not where Mother Nature or you think it’s going. KS: and I’ve seen the experts, and I was watching the weather channel on some of these hurricanes, and I’ve seen them just kind of blink and turn pale, [like] when that second hurricane hit in the same exact spot about the same time of night; when those two hurricanes came in, I mean I can’t recall their names right now, they all hit the same place in the Florida coast. SS: Florence and Gene. I mean the weather has been so unusual, so unusual. While they were having the storms in Florida, four [4] hurricanes and a tropical storm, five [5] events on that peninsula in one, what, seven/eight week period. MH: Right, that was crazy. SS: I mean well beyond four [4] or five [5] standard deviations from normal. On the West Coast you’re dealing with three storms, three standard deviations greater than normal for the time of year. It’s so unusual that the events display intent. They’re just, they’re an evidence of somebody mucking with the weather; it’s just the way it is and we have to live with it. MH: Alright, so here’s another question. We’ve seen the evidence in the photography; is there also evidence in radar because we’ve seen some real strange radars over the last few years? SS: Oh, and that was probably the one thing that got me to Kent’s [website], the unusual radar site images [link]. And some, some could be explained away, sun spikes are common. And I’ve gotten on the phone with the guys on the weather service down here and said hey look at this, you know what this is? And I give them the frame and the time and they go back through the log book, and like ‘I don't know, I don't know ‘. You hear that a lot when you start asking questions, I don’t know. [laughter]. KS: What I get is a lot of people saying ‘I know’ and ‘this is what is‘, but we keep watching it and watching it and watching it. MH: Right, I’d rather have a guy tell me he doesn’t know that make up something, you know? SS: Well yeah, and something that’s absolutely absurd, which is usually what we get, is an absurd excuse that just defies logic. And I’m sorry, but if you can’t be open minded then at least be intrigued by it, I have no business talking to; you are of no good in furthering this cause or furthering the investigation, if you won’t be open minded at least look at it. MH: Right, I’ve kind of learned that too, I don’t waste a lot of my air anymore on people who aren’t really willing to listen. SS: Well, they’re not, they’re not ready to hear it, so you don’t waste the time, you don’t answer the emails back; you know it’s sad but there are so few aware people, far fewer than there needs to be right now. MH: Yep, yep, there are uhh, but there are a few for sure because you’re out there, Kent’s out their, I’m doing this I have lots of people that enjoy the stuff we talk about on this show, so we’re out there maybe a little bit under the radar but it’s certainly growing in numbers I must say I think so. SS: So what’s the next picture you want to talk about? MH: Well let’s see, there is a, let’s see I should probably count. OK, you know where the pine tree picture is? Not the one directly under that. SS: Which was a cool night one. MH: Well, why don’t you tell us about that one then. SS: Well it was similar to the top picture. MH: That says a nighttime grid. SS: Yeah, that was a full moon, a four [4] second exposure, I just pulled the camera out and threw in a wide angle lens and set it on top of the snow covered car. MH: Ahh, there’s the moon in the middle there, I see, OK. SS: Oh. no no no no, the moon is off to the side of illuminating from the northeast. I don’t know what that is in the middle to be honest with you Mike, I don’t know what that is, but it’s an odd odd signature to show up [out there, (unsure of Scott’s last statement it was garbled)]. MH: Interesting SS: I mean I don’t know what it is, and I umm, I would love to get into that control center that plays with this weather, I would be a kid in a candy store. MH: Look at this thing. SS: Which one, the one below or? MH: Yeah, I’m looking at the one you’re talking about right now. SS: Oh yeah. MH: You know. SS: It looks like a face doesn’t it? MH: It’s wild. SS: It’s eye umm, it’s, there are, there are holes punched in clouds and mainly looking at say satellite imagery [there are] holes everywhere, I mean artificial holes just literally exacto knifed out. And the sharp edges that they display, umm, it would be, I would love to be able to generate a network. MH: Wow, you know I gotta ask you something Scott, go down to the next photo. I see two more of those sort of same objects in the middle of that one. SS: You do? MH: Do you see that right in the middle of the photo? SS: Uh huh, it’s the plus and minus. MH: Those two little circles is that what? SS: Mmm hum [yes]. MH: Do you see what I’m talking about Kent? KS: Yeah I do. MH: Anyway, wild, well anyway the photo I wanted to ask you about was the following one the one after that one, it looks like KS: What’s the label on the photo? MH: It says a portion or grid at a joint or intersection point with another one in the far upper left cirrus clouds connecting the two points. It looks like the trumpet. [laughter] SS: It does but you can see where MH: I mean look at these streamers that come out of it. SS: Mmm umm, and it’s an area of disturbed weather [garbled]. MH: It looks electrical in nature almost. SS: Exactly, exactly and then the cirrus string, or the ice crystals streaming out from it after it’s been turned on or electrified. You’ll see that a lot now that you’ve seen it in the pictures, you’ll see it frequently [now]. MH: Incredible. KS: It is. SS: Umm, I was going to say, I had a, let’s go back to the main page. MH: OK, let’s go back to the main page here, and then ahh SS: and then let’s go down to the next picture which will be lower clouds, the tag is July 2, 2004, and you’ll see a mountaintop, a ridge top just south of town here MH: Right SS: and two [2] thunderheads billowing up but with a connecting arm or a bar connecting the middle of one to the bottom of the other, that’s the bottom half of a cube. . MH: Mmmph? SS: and it was a day, remember thunderstorms are turned on they’re turned off; they don’t or rarely form naturally in the ??? [garbled whisper]. SS: Hey uhh Scott, uhh, do me a favor and get right on the phone there, your level went down a little bit there. SS: It’s getting a little dark, huh? MH: Yeah, it’s getting, and I uhh, and I uhh, I know it’s late or early as well, and we’ve been on the phone for the last [4 hours], so [laughter, group consensus]. Anyway, OK, so uhh, yeah I see, I see exactly what you’re talking about here. SS: And one of the things that’s absolutely necessary for clouds to form, it’s something called the ‘lifted condensation level’, the LCL; when clouds form they do so by rising or taking their moisture, to keep their vapor, [by going into] a cooler atmosphere, into a cooler environment. And at some point the moisture in this parcel of air will condense out, and as that condenses that’s the ‘lifted condensation level’ [LCL]. What we find, or I’m finding, and others will soon, is that many many clouds do not obey that law, they don’t have the flat bases. Now, sometimes the bases won’t be flat simply because it’s a function of turbulence, you have a very turbulent or a very stormy atmosphere, but this was a still summer day and that law should have applied. So, we’re just saying that this is a portion as the time clicks through the day the solar energy keeps the lower layers of the atmosphere, that value is then read back into this Center, this Weather Control Center, and once certain values are reached clouds are allowed to form MH: Amazing. SS: in certain grids and mature to a point, unless they wanted rain to form. Let’s follow the link into lower clouds, and I title it cumulus clouds MH: lower clouds, ok, there we go. And you know I really want to talk to you about the one that’s below that one too when we come back, that satellite image. SS: Oh, oh boy, ahh. [laughter] KS: Speaking of the weather, I got a cold, so if you hear a muffled cough, that’s me in the background. SS: But we see the first picture on the cumulus clouds, do you see the two clouds together? And ahh, this was, I was, this shot in the backyard, had the Nikon out, and ahh, saw the clouds form with just a few vertical or parallel lines, tendrils, and then they just grew, and the cloud lasted for no more than about five [5] six [6] minutes, so I sat there with the camera [and] took a picture, throw it to the compact flash card and take another picture, take another picture, take another picture. So, I assembled about 30 pictures as this square cloud, and you can see its outline, how it’s ahh, how do you say it, how do you say it? It's just not natural. MH: Yeah, no, you can see the lines, it’s obvious in all of these, and that’s the one thing that jumps out is the right angles. I mean look at the one, I mean I’m just paging down here but ahh, amazing. Well, hey ahh, you guys hold on a second here I have a special guest that just walked into my studio so I gotta say hi to him real fast, this is my friend Pat just walked in does a show here on the station as well. Hi Pat, how’s it going? Pat: Oh, pretty good. How’re you doing? MH: Pretty good, you listening to the show? Pat: Yes I did, I was on the way home from a great date tonight, and uhh, [laughter] and I uhh was uhh just uhh marveling at how great this show was going, you guys are talking uhh, well, Unidentified Flying Objects [UFO] obviously, uhh we, we can’t figure out what it is, but uhh MH: Well, yeah Pat: We know what it is, we know what it is, they’re in it with the Aliens I tell ya. MH: Anyway, ok, well I just wanna Pat: That was a good date wasn’t it? MH: Yeah boy, anyway OK Pat, thanks for stopping in and we’ll get back to these guys here. Alright, Pat does a show by the way, everybody listening, from 6:00 until 8:00 on Friday evenings it’s called ‘Pat’s Power Pop hour’ and he plays some great uhh rock and roll music during the two hour period, so thanks for stopping in Pat. Alright, thanks again for having a little break there. Anyway, yeah, these images once you start Scott, like you say, once you sort of point it out then they start to jump out at you all over the place. SS: They do, and the system that runs this, is like we said, it’s global. You’ll see cut clouds or broken clouds that should be continuous and for some apparent, and known to us but unknown if you ask the quote unquote “Authorities”, umm, and it’s just because they have the authority not because they know [what’s going on] KS: Hey Scott, Scott you speak of uhh clouds being punched and etc. One time, one day I went out and looked straight up, and in fact I photographed it, and there was like a hole in the [cloud], there was like a cirrus cloud cover and a coleus shaped leaf-like looking hole right in the middle of this darn thing with a spine that looked like, it looked like a spine running down the center of this vortex, and it had streamers, octopus-like streamers running out of it. The odd thing about it is this cirrus cloud or whatever clouds it were [up there], whatever strata they were at, they were passing by this thing, they were blowing as though this, this was moving from west to east but not at the same rate as the cloud cover, but it was really strange, I called it the ‘Seattle Vortex’. MH: I remember yeah I remember when you had that of on the site. SS: Well, whoa, time lapse is something I need to get into, and it’s going to take an investment of some gear to be able to put together the kind of, basically broadcast quality stuff that I want to be able to get, but remember we’re dealing with cubes rolling, and with the cirrus clouds that you’re talking about, umm, sometimes they’re excited by a grid working westbound, where the wind is moving from the south or southwest, ahh, and you’ll get these layers of clouds, how do you say it to be politically correct? Umm, they’re just not going in the right directions, and when you’re exciting a cloud going against the wind you’re going to get unusual turbulence, you’re going to get unusual spines and feathers coming off of these electrified grids. And all sorts of bizarreness that uhh, hey the more pictures we have, the more pictures we get out and share with other people I think the better off we’re going to be, I mean at least more people we’ll have watching the skies. The last picture on that page we’re on, uhh which is cumulus clouds, I’ve got X’d out some holes in the bottom of these clouds. MH: Right, right, I’m looking at it right now. SS: This was heading up to Yellowstone on an afternoon, and you can see that the holes, they’re the same diameter so they’re the same level off the ground, umm the ‘lifted condensation level’ of the clouds is intact so you can see they’ve got the flat base, but there’s this right where the updraft actually it would be the downdraft where the rain would form at the front of the storm the updraft would be towards the back; that’s been disturbed or literally just evacuated out of, voided out of the clouds, and that inhibits the formation of rainfall and inhibits how vertical, how tall these clouds can grow. And that’s the function of the 500 year drought we’re in out here, is it that this has been ongoing for summer after summer after summer. But if we go back to the front pages, since that was the last picture. MH: Actually let’s do that but let’s take a break first and it is about 4:40 or so a.m. on Sunday, December 12^th, and I’ll be back with you guys in just a second okay? And we’ll finish things up; we’ll have about fifteen minutes uhh, actually we’ll have about ten minutes after this break to finish things up, so maybe think about some closing comments, how we want to finish things up and what we want to tell people about what we should be doing and what we can do to, I don’t know, to keep pushing this information Scott. Obviously, you’re a meteorologist and a television weatherman, a personality on the TV out there, and you’re doing it and talking about it openly now and people haven’t thrown you out of town yet, so obviously things are at least starting to come around. SS: It’s time, it’s time for people to [wake up]. MH: Yep, it is, it’s time [for people to wake up]. So we’ll be back in just a moment, my guests are Scott Stevens he’s a meteorologist from eastern Idaho and a television weatherman out there for the uhh, I don’t know, I better not say the network that he works for, umm and I’m also on the line with Kent Steadman, Kent is a regular guest on the program and one of my favorite people and the guy that runs CyberSpaceOrbit.com. This is Mike Hagan and you’re listening to radiorbit on KOPN and we’ll be back in just a minute. Break This is Mike Hagan, you’re listening to radiorbit on KOPN 89.5 FM and my guests are Scott Stevens a meteorologist and weatherman out in the Pacific northwest out there in eastern Idaho, and Kent Steadman from CyberSpaceOrbit.com. We’re checking out some imagery on the web site here at weatherwars.info, and uhh, also some stuff over at CyberSpaceOrbit.com, and talking to these guys and uhh, gonna finish things up here, we’ve got about eight or nine minutes left and going to kind of leave it to you guys, Kent say whatever you’d like, Scott why don’t you guys chat a little bit and I’m just gonna kinda sit back and see how we wanna finish this conversation and what we might be doing and we’ve kind of determined that certainly these things are happening, we’ve got crazy things happening up in the sky, and we’ve got crazy things happening everywhere. And, uhh, the question is what do we do about it and ahh, where we go from here, so. KS: Well, I’ll go. SS: Oh, O.K. KS: Listen, I’m going to speak from the gut here a little bit, and you know and it’s probably isn’t scientific and so on, but I would like to say to people, “don't give up”. You know, we are, I was talking to Charlie the other day this friend of mine that understands electro-magnetic propagation and all that, and he said, you know we’re scalar too, we have this sort of Logos perception mind ground into a hamburger body and we are by nature ourselves a scalar entity, you know, and Mike and I we’ve met with people from a very ancient tradition that have the ability, in my opinion and this is personal opinion, they can talk to the weather too. MH: I agree with you. KS: They can communicate with the weather and this goes way back, you know. And when we see, when we talk about our whole planet been digitized than that kinda pisses me off, excuse the expression. And I would say, you know, people find the resource inside of yourself to first of all understand it and acknowledge it and see it happening and and then find the [resource inside of yourself], I mean our technology is nothing more than the 21^st century version of mind-drip, you know, and I feel very strongly, impassionedly within myself that there is an antidote force for it all, and it’s found within an understanding that’s within ourselves and an understanding, I’ve been with people that are close to nature, like Mike and I have hung out around Lakota people and so on, and I think there’s a technology of intuition, the spirit, that we need to summon up and be our resource at least in our ability to understand all this and then we’ll go from there. MH: I agree, I agree, I agree. And there’s nothing to be afraid of, I agree Kent, nothing to be scared of, don’t give up, because this is just one of many things that are going on and what is required is an awareness of all of it, so ahh, Scott uhh let you have the last word here, give you about five [5] minutes or so to wrap things up. And first of all I want to thank both you guys for spending all this time with me, I know it’s not easy in the middle of night like this but I really appreciate it and so do my listeners and we’re going to put this thing up on the web and make sure that as many ears get on it as we can make happen and we’re just going to keep doing it, and we’ll continue to do this in the future, we’ll do more shows if you guys are willing, so. SS: None of us would be here on earth if we didn’t choose to come here; you know I’ve always believed that we are eternal beings, we’ve lived in eternity and we’ll live in eternity. And we’re here at school, we’re here provided er uhh, we’re here in a place where certain circumstances are, you know well we’re born into, we don’t necessarily believe we choose who our parents are and where we are but we’ve come to this planet at this time because it needs us and because we need it to grow ourselves further. And ahh, its decisions we make about whether we’re here to help humanity or whether we’re here to complain; we’re going to help ourselves, we’re going to pick up ourselves and take back our personal responsibility, take it back from those who we have voted it to or given it to on Sundays and, and let’s just say we’ve got to take this planet back and we’ve got to take our destinies back. And if you don’t somebody else will make those decisions for you, somebody else will take you down the road that you may not want to go, and you may not know you’re going down that road until you see where you’re going more clearly. MH: Right, until you find out where you are. SS: And that awareness has got to come; there is not a day where you cannot be vigilant about what you say, what you think, what you wish upon others, because there’s this law in the universe called the law of attraction: That which you desire desires you. And we have got in this country and indeed in this world what I’d like to call the victim consciousness, and that is, how do you say it, that’ll be our downfall, woe is me, you know, bad stuff happens to me. Well it happens to you because you let it happen and we have to change our mind set, we have to empower ourselves as individuals before the bad stuff will quit happening to us, because right now it all, we all let it happen. We don’t get out, we don’t protest, we don’t inform others, or we don’t even make ourselves aware of what’s happening in the world around us. And it’s this cocoon that we have got to get ourselves out of. Many of us that are either listening or aware of these things know what we’ve got to do; but there is a great, great majority of humanity that is not aware. And there has got to be a quotient, a quorum of humanity that is breached or reached so we can begin to take this planet in a different direction. It’s ours, it’s our planet. We were born to it, it is our right. And it has to be taken back from those who want control of it. And that’s what a lot of the SOHO stuff is that Kent keeps up on his page. Its evidence of multiple civilizations warring over this solar system, warring over this planet, and we’re ignorant of it happening. And that has to change. We’re almost locked out of getting into space with the shuttle now [?grounded?, couldn’t make out word --NEG]. We can’t get there! At this day and age 50 years, 40 years into the space race we can’t put man in space, and we let it happen. MH: Well, not officially at least [laughing]. SS: Well, not officially, I mean granted they are uhh, yeah. And that comes back to leadership for me, that we have had an absence of honest and honorable leadership for this country, for our individual states, and for the world in general, and we have to demand more from our leaders. It’s an absolute must. We cannot go down this road anymore. We have to make some changes. MH: Well, alright, I think we all agree that some changes are going to have to be made. In fact, changes are coming one way or another, it’s going to be a determination of what those changes are I think, and we are a part of that determining factor, and, you know, I uhh, Kent uhh I wanna finish things up with one thing I thought of mine as you guys were talking, is that, you know, the technology, whether people understand it or not, is getting to the point where it is absolutely remarkable and capable of, well, almost anything – the computer, the processing speeds that are attainable now, umm, are something else, and uhh, I think that, I think that we’re approaching a time where anything may be possible literally; and the question comes up, like Scott says, “is man good or bad?”. Are we good or bad? We’re gonna find out, because when you can do anything, when anything is possible, what do you do [with the power]? What do you do? And that's the question that we’re gonna have to face and that we’re facing right now, so, alright you guys thanks again, one more time www.weatherwars.info www.CyberSpaceOrbit.com and www.radiorbit.com . This is Mike Hagan, you’ve been listening to radiorbit for the last three hours, thanks for being with me, thanks again to my guests Scott Stevens meteorologist and uhh, Kent Steadman, uhh, genius [and] close friend. Thanks again guys and we’ll do this once again.

"But like the solar system is going through a change soon

and is going to affect the Earth in about 30 years, you know; I am talking about the Earth itself.”

In the last days of his life, Jimi told me about a strong belief that he held, and took a writing pad, to illustrate more clearly what he meant.

Before going into the subject, he talked for a while about a song he had written called "If Six Was Nine".

He told me that there was a cosmic meaning to that song, hidden in the two numbers six and nine.

Jimi said that these numbers together are a very powerful force, and he drew them within each other.

It looked like a spiral when he added more rays, the individual rays as well as the whole form spinning to the right.

He said the sign with nine rays in it is the symbol of a very high spiritual power which is coming towards the earth.

He was convinced that, in the near future, Galacticans from outer space, from another galaxy of great positive power,

would come to our planet to help mankind in its struggle against evil.

While explaining this, he drew two points representing this higher power coming closer and closer towards our galaxy, the Milky Way, finally reaching Earth.

Jimi then made another sketch with four spiral rays pointing leftwards, telling me that this symbol is a negative one, because its rays point to the left.

He told me that the arrival of the positive power would bring about a great change on our planet.

Love, peace and brotherhood among the peoples on Earth would start to blossom again, just as they had in the ancient civilization of Atlantis.

He said that the signs of the beginning of these events would be when significant unexpected changes started to happen in the world.

But he also pointed out that we, the people, would also have to become active and anticipate bringing about these positive changes for ourselves and our world.

He explained that people on Earth have been asleep for too long and an awakening is beginning to happen to the people as this higher power approaches our world.

This prophecy of Jimi's was an inspiration for this painting.

A spacecraft, one of many to follow, is approaching our galaxy, its destination planet Earth. Jimi also refers to this event in his last poem,

"The Story of Life":

Angels of heaven,

Flying saucers to some,

Made Easter Sunday,

The name of the rising sun.

Excerpt "The Inner World of Jimi Hendrix" by Monika Dannermann, ISBN 0-312-137-389