Subj: NY Plane Exploded in air-sabotage
Date: 11/12/01 8:58:42 PM Pacific Standard Time




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Subject: NY Plane Exploded in air-sabotage
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:46:33 -0500
From: "Pointman USA"

At 11 AM, CBS Brian Gumball interviewed a pilot that has flown that route to
the Dominican Republic in that very type of aircraft . He was off duty and
the plane came down near where he lived.He actually went out to see what was
wrong because from the sound he knew something was wrong. He was a witness.
He -Mr.Mernenis said there were two or three explosions ,he saw the engine
fly off one way and the wing separated and went another way. Other witnesses
say they saw the same thing.

The plane was at say 1000 to 2000 ft. tops 3 miles away then came down in a
spin and hit 4 miles away.

Another witness at a further distance away heard no explosions and said only
the engine came off.

Witnesses that did not hear explosions in the sky  were all inside buildings
looking through windows. Witnesses that heard explosions in the air were
outside and close to the flight path.

I'll take the testimony off the off-duty pilot.

Another winess saw the plane after the engine came off at 500 ft the whole
wing on right in flames and said it pitched left rolled and nose dived
straight down.

I was an aviation mechanic and on flight crews where both reciprocal and jet
engines went out and we flew for hundreds of miles...on the other engine.

I tell you this was sabotage. It was either hit by a low altitude heat
seaking missile or a Taleban sympathizer that worked in maintanence put
something up in the engine.

They are trying to keep the stock market from panicking. And the collapse of
the already faltering aviation and related industries.

Something is very fishy here. I think it was sabotaged.

Pointman USA

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>From http://www.HalTurnerShow.com

Update 10:55 AM
JET CRASH IN NEW YORK CITY

Eric Burns, President of Air Transport Association at John F. Kennedy
Airport in New York City confirms that  American Airlines  Flight #587 an
AIRBUS 306 with 247 passengers and 9 crew  OUTBOUND from John F. Kennedy
Airport enroute to Santo Domingo, crashed and exploded  in the Far Rockaway
/ Rockaway Beach section of Queens, New York at 9:17 AM EST.

Within minutes of normal takeoff, ground witnesses reported seeing an
EXPLOSION IN MID-AIR
with a wing and an engine fall off!  Plane nose-dived into the ground.

More. . . . Engine landed  four city blocks away from fuselage.  3-Alarm
fire blazing at scene of engine crash; 5 alarm fire blazing at scene of
fuselage crash. Multiple homes ablaze

That area of New York City is DENSELY POPULATED.  At least four homes /
Apartment buildings  reported on fire at  Beach 129th and Newport Avenues.
Hundreds feared dead. Flames and
smoke can be seen for miles.

FAA has closed all three New York Airports and all New York airspace in 20
mile radius.   All Inbound air traffic to New York must divert.  Fighter
Jets are airborne over New York City  to enforce the NO FLY ZONE.

ALL BRIDGES, TUNNELS AND AIRSPACE INTO AND OUT OF NEW YORK CITY CLOSED

Northbound I-95 Traffic now backed-up from the George Washington Bridge
(GWB)  for 25 miles on New Jersey Turnpike,   and southbound is backed-up
from GWB to the   Connecticut State Line!   I-80 Eastbound is backed up 27
Miles from GWB.  Long Island Expressway has 42 Mile back-up inbound to NYC.
BELT PARKWAY AND VAN WYCK EXPRESSWAY TOTALLY JAMMED ENTIRE LENGTH.

FLIGHT WAS AN INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT MEANING ALL BAGGAGE, INCLUDING
CHECKED AND CARRY-ON, DID GO THROUGH X-RAY CHECKS.

More Details to follow. . . .   Check www.HalTurnerShow.com often!
http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html
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Black Box Recovered From N.Y. Airliner Crash
NewsMax.com Wires Tuesday, Nov. 13, 2001
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/12/141306.shtml

Police State:
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=143236