5/14/02 10:18:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Heya Kent,
Glad to see you made it back alright from the
Gathering of Elders. (grins sheepishly) I think I
checked on the site enough times to actually see items
posted, then changed, and then posted differently, as
you sorted out your thoughts during those first couple
of days. Dang it, sure wish I couldve gone myself.
Very interesting research you have going on with
migrations, ancestors, and so on. Thought I would
forward a few notes on a subject not yet addressed
much: blood types and Rh factor in world population.
Pretty good tracer of some lineages and migrations,
where traditional methods fail.
-- A Starting Thought:
Why Would Grandma and Grandpa Lie? --
My mother is actually a library archivist...her
genealogy stories often fascinate me. Such strange
mixes of fact and fiction sprout up in peoples family
trees - each new generations reality is shaped
carefully by their eras social norms.
One story I recall: a library patron, who had invested
good money in a family crest and claimed to have
royal lineage based on his last name.
He was surprised to learn that his namesake
great-grandfather wasnt even really related to him at
all and that his doting auntie was actually his
grandmother!
Apparently there were two successive generations of
out-of-wedlock babies born in his family line, noted
in the birth records. But no one had ever actually
told the descendants.
Even just looking at such basic keeping up social
appearances situations, we can quickly lose track of
the true roots of our families.
Knowing of this type of family history scenario has
led me to occasionally delve into other realms of
tracking ancestry, like population-blood type
distribution, and seeking after rare blood traits -
like Rh Negative factor.
-- Blood Types and Populations: Family Ties --
Ive always been intrigued by the low percentages of
certain blood types, and especially of Rh Negative, in
the population at large. My own blood type is A-, and
in fact, my family on both sides has occurrences of
one of the rarest types, AB-, comprising less than 1%
of the population in the US.
-- So: Why is blood typing a key factor
to consider in tracing ancestry? --
(please hang in - good information, though a bit long)
http://www.dadamo.com/theory3.htm
A person's blood group is one of his physical
characteristics, just as a dark skin may be, or blue
eyes or a hooked nose. Like other physical
characteristics, blood groups can be used to divide
mankind into races.
You may ask at once: But would they (ed: blood types)
be *any better* for the purpose, than skin color or
any of the other physical characteristics we have
talked about in this book?
The answer is that in some ways, they (ed: blood
types) would be.
1. They are "hidden" characteristics. You can't tell a
man's blood group by looking at him.
This reserves race classification to scientists who
are interested in the development and evolution of
man. It keeps a person from making judgments of his
own about his neighbor's race and from building up
superstitions and prejudices about it.
2. Unlike the more familiar physical characteristics,
blood groups are inherited in known ways.
The A, B, and O blood groups are controlled by a
single gene series consisting of three genes. The M
and N blood groups are controlled by a single gene
series consisting of two genes. The Rh blood groups
are controlled by a single gene series consisting of
eight genes. In each case, we know which genes are
dominant over which.
3. A man's blood group is determined the instant the
fertilized ovum is formed and remains the same till
the day he dies. Even after death tissues can be
tested for blood groups. Blood groups aren't affected
by age or diet or exposure to sunlight or by any kind
of chemical or medical treatment.
None of the things that affect the physical
characteristics usually used to determine race will
affect blood groups. Blood groups are permanent.
4. With one exception, which we will mention later in
this chapter, blood groups have no drastic effect on
the health of a man, the length of his life, when or
whom he marries, or the number or health of his
children.
That means that the blood-group genes are all passed
on from generation to generation according to pure
chance. Blood groups would therefore show how human
beings have mixed with one another, for there would be
no confusion due to the workings of natural
selection.
From: BLOOD GROUPS AND ANTHROPOLOGY, Book: RACES
AND PEOPLE BY WILLIAM C. BOYD PH.D. and ISAAC ASIMOV
PH.D. Copyright 1955 Abelard-Schumann, New York
-- Current Blood Type Distribution --
Check out the distribution of blood types by country
(numbers are percentages of population, for each
country - or else by ethic group):
http://www.bloodbook.com/world-abo.html
There are also rarer blood types (beyond A, B, O, AB,
and Rh factor almost always exclusive to small ethnic
groups):
http://www.bloodbook.com/rare.html
Patterns of blood types become readily apparent in the
listing. Did you notice that Native Americans, listed
in the first link, are mostly O+? But not the Lakota,
who are mostly A+? And the Rh Negative gene is very
rare, in both cases.
In fact, Europeans - especially old lineage
Europeans, like the Basques - are almost the sole
carriers of the Rh negative gene. It is almost never
found in other groups.
-- What Is the Rhesus Factor (And Who Has It)? --
http://www.islandnet.com/~edonon/rh.htm
The Rh. or Rhesus factor comes in two forms, positive
and negative. Most people of the world are Rh-positive
while the Rh-negative people are mostly found
concentrated in out-of-the-way places in Western
Europe and the far N.W. corner of Africa.
Professor of Genetics Dr. Cavalli-Sforza at Standford
University published a gene map of the locations of
the Rh-negative peoples and showed that the highest
frequency occurred in Morocco, the Basque country,
Northern Ireland and Scotland, all carrying over 25%
of this factor (Scientific American, November 1991).
The locations of the Rh-negative occurrence appear to
parallel the present and past use of the Basque
language among the people, and as such, is of great
interest to this study.
Some tribes of Berbers in the Atlas mountains of
Morocco have a frequency of close to 40% Rh-neg. and
many of these still speak Berber, a language closely
related to Basque. The language of the Basque country
is, of course, Basque.
This book makes it abundantly clear that Basque is the
language of the geographical and family names of both
Ireland and Scotland, even though that language is no
longer spoken there.
From Web Site of Edo Nyland, Rh. Incompatibility.
-- Who Were These Pioneers of the Atlantic? --
The Rh-negative people who populated all the islands
of western Europe, from the Canary islands to the
Lofoten in the Arctic, all were sailors, fishermen,
ocean explorers. They all had the same dark hair and
long skulls of the Berbers and Basques.
At Mount Komsa they established their religious
center, carving their typical symbols, boats and
implements on the rocks, just like they had done in
Morocco, Euskadi, Ireland, and a little later would
also do at the southern tip of Sweden.
From Web Site of Edo Nyland, The Master Builders.
-- Why is Rh Negative so rare? A: Infant Mortality.
--
http://www.dadamo.com/theory3.htm
Rh-negative blood is one type that can have a drastic
effect on human health....Sometimes a mother is
Rh-negative and her unborn baby is Rh-positive (having
inherited one of the other Rh genes from the father).
When this happens, some of the baby's erythrocytes may
be destroyed and other serious damage also results.
Consequently, the baby will die before birth or very
shortly after.
Nowadays, modern medicine can handle these babies,
once they are born, by means of transfusions. In
earlier times, however, no help was possible. As a
result, you would expect the rh gene to disappear
slowly. Rh-negative mothers would have fewer living
children, and so the rh gene would be passed on less
frequently than the other genes in the series.
Sure enough, the (Ed: Native) American, Australian,
and Asiatic groups have little or no rh gene. The
African group contains a small quantity of rh gene.
The inhabitants of Europe (including Americans and
Australians who are descended from Europeans),
however, have a good deal of the rh gene; about one
out of seven among them is Rh-negative.
From: BLOOD GROUPS AND ANTHROPOLOGY, Book: RACES
AND PEOPLE BY WILLIAM C. BOYD PH.D. and ISAAC ASIMOV
PH.D. Copyright 1955 Abelard-Schumann, New York
-- The Effects on Ancient Tribes --
-- Or: Cultures Grown of Rh Issues --
http://www.islandnet.com/~edonon/rh.htm
Once, very long ago, it is assumed that the whole of
humanity was Rh-negative. Every time an Rh-positive
allele arose by mutation, it was quickly eliminated.
Then once, just once long ago, it was not eliminated.
This probably happened in East Asia. Perhaps the
mutation occurred and first expressed itself in a
woman belonging to a very small tribe.
The Rh-positive allele must have been passed on much
more often than the Rh-negative allele, it might have
become the far more common allele in that small tribe.
For the time being there was no problem. Humans were
distributed in a large number of small families,
rarely coming into contact with other tribes. Only one
tribe carried the positive allele, all others were
negative.
We must speculate that sooner of later the Rh-positive
tribe came into contact with an Rh-negative one and
they interbred. Then, in a year or two, disaster
struck. The first few babies were healthy, but with
later babies the infant death rate rose very high.
Infant survival is vital to the tribes own survival.
Any tribes existence was tenuous in those early days.
A rash of dead babies had to be avoided at all cost
When the truth finally was known, the Rh-positive
tribe would have to develop a rule: do not mingle with
strangers, specifically *do not mate with outsiders.*
(Text goes into much more detail on various effects of
different rh types on social structure, then
summarizes section.)
So it is likely that the impact of *Rh-positive*
alleles is to give rise to tribes:
1) that are exclusive,
2) that may be war-like,
3) that may have some tribal god,
4) emphasize mating for life,
5) revere the first born,
6) emphasize female virginity,
7) relegate women to an inferior social status and
8) elevate some member to the status of king.
Both quotes from Web Site of Edo Nyland, Rh.
Incompatibility
Nyland also indicates the remaining *Rh Negative*
tribes had much different tendencies, due to their
groups from being an older culture where Rh issues
were not originally known: matrilineal, more peaceful,
worshipped nature deities, open relationships, etc.
So perhaps the fall of ancient female-oriented
societies (Rh negatives) simply mirrored the rise of
the new Rh Positive gene groups in human populations!
-- Wild Speculations on Rh Negative People --
1. RH Negatives: the Master Builders of Legend?
It has been suggested that the builders of the great
pre-Christian monuments, such as Stonehenge, had
Rh-negative blood. Is it possible that Rh-negative
people are more technically inclined and more
inventive than Rh-positive people? Let us explore this
possibility.
See: http://www.islandnet.com/~edonon/rh.htm
(About halfway down page)
2. RH Negatives: Alien cross-breeds?
The descendants of this seminal Mother race were
the Celts who, like the ripples on a pond, spread out,
colonising various northern areas of the planet.
Scots, Irish, Basques, Spanish, Scandinavians,
Icelanders and the Portuguese, all these peoples are
of Celtic origin.
These disparate nationalities have one common genetic
trait, a large percentage of RH-negative blood types,
which, according to the beliefs of the Thule society
was a characteristic of the Hyperboreans and their
extraterrestrial associates.
In recent times, the majority of alien abductees are
reportedly from RH negative blood groups, is this a
possible indication that UFO cultures are tracking
their cross-bred progeny?
See: http://www.fsreview.net/spi/nazinth.htm
3. RH Negatives: The Blood of the Gods?
Blood is mentioned more often than any other word in
the Bible, except God. These two words you will find
in almost every page, blood and God! (The blood of the
Gods?) This message has been written for thousands of
years. There is a connection between the blood and the
Gods.
From OFFICIAL UFO'S ANCIENT ASTRONAUT MAGAZINE,
November, 1976, Page 46
http://www.geocities.com/ask_lady_lee/rhneg.html
-- Bit of Fun : Blood Types and Personality:
Whats Your Sign? --
Did you know in Japan, they refer to blood types in
the same way we Americans ask might ask, What is your
sign? Supposedly it is a personality indicator.
Sadly, it appears that I will never be the life of the
party according to this personality gauging
system maybe I should invent my own
See Can Blood Type Determine Character?
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fl20010916a3.htm
-- Some Other Mother Thoughts... --
A couple of years ago, I ran across quite a few web
sites proclaiming the ability to catalog and
cross-match a persons DNA for likely ancestry
patterns (methods mostly based on mitochondria, the
mothers genes that are unique identifiers of
lineage.)
Mitochondria are a good place to start for a lot of
identification tracking purposes individual dna
identifiers, family dna codes, ethic dna grouping, and
so on.
Mitochondria sampling, as I understand, is also one of
the key methods anthropologists and others use in
tracing the common Eves of modern humanity. (So
far, there are no common Adams that can be traced,
that I know of )
Eves, but no Adam hmm
Perhaps it really does all come down to the Primordial
Goddess at some point: Adamah, made of bloody clay,
the female fertile blood...the great mothers sacred
creation.
Interesting thoughts Signing off for now.
Take care, and peace to thee and thine.