User ID: 12608
8/12/2005
9:30 pm EDT
>>S&S, R U coming back tomorrow?<<
I hope so. I like talking to you guys. I´m travelling early tomorrow (looks at clock and shakes his head) becaus
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Okay, I really am ready for some shut-eye. Let´s hook up tomorrow.
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These two articles:
http://counterpunch.org/cockburn07302005.html
http://counterpunch.org/cockburn08032005.html
The intercepts DID NOT relate to the author of the above pieces. They were culled from conversations with a non-American citizen on the European continent.
The man who supplied the information works for the British Ministry of Defence (I won´t tell you his name) and the journalist, who has a wealth of contacts to various intel circles, has been under surveillance for many years.
The reports are true. The NSA know it, the CIA know it, Rice knows it, Bush knows it, Cheney knows it and Blair knows it. You´d think the admin would jump for joy given the admissions and a very handy excuse to attack Iran? So why aren´t they?
Because there´s a lot more to this story than meets the eye (read: international money laundering on a grand scale). And it puts Iran ahead of North Korea in the nuclear club.
The official only wanted to send a message to the Pentagon. Iran is safe.
Okay, time to sleep.
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I have no intelligence to post on the Utah truck explosion, but I´ll certainly be asking questions on Monday.
Right now, I´m still in transit, so I guess I won´t be able to post for any length of time until later this evening.
I never registered. Your "Journey" man is someone else. I decided to post here because of the popularity of this forum and the fact that one is not required to register.
Until later
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Safe & Sound
User ID: 1352
8/13/2005
2:51 pm EDT
I enjoyed a magnificent view of the scenery today. Just looking down on the whole of Europe before me had the effect of making me feel very, very small.
I´m a little more settled at the moment and will post until an invitation to a late saunter around town interrupts my thinking.
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In answer to questions raised by someone about Senate hearings prior to the OKC APM bombing(s):
Yes, pressure was building for new hearings into the Waco disaster. Timothy McVeigh was, from a purely psychological standpoint, an innocent man. He was what we used to call a "Manchurian Candidate". Lee Radek, who worked for Reno at the DoJ, is the only person I know who has the complete story. The presiding judge, Matsch, also ordered the destruction of sensitive information that would have placed McVeigh under psychiatric care.
This was the FBI at its worst. Worse than anything seen under Hoover and the Bay of Pigs era. Louis Freeh was a communist and the worst FBI boss of all time.
I´ll say something controversial in regard to what was verified by one of our own case officers on the inside of Freeh´s cadre. The APM building was destroyed by an atomic device (SADM). I´ll leave it at that.
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>>Safe and Sound .... Do you know if they will cut off Social security benifits immediately/close the banks ?<<
Yes, but that´s only the start. The plan in the medium term is to replace the dollar with a different currency system for internal consumption. Effectively, the dollar will still be the nominal currency of use in international trades following drastic revaluation.
Within the short term, we´ll see the swift imposition of rationing, which will be supported by a voucher system. Eventually, vouchers will be replaced by "personal credit cards", effectively ending the use of hard currency transactions in all internal markets.
The Brits are about to introduce fuel rationing using the same system. Everyone over the age of 17 will be allotted a "fuel consumption allowance" and debits from that allowance will be registered directly to a central accounting system via the cards.
In the US, we will be operating under exactly those procedures -- but for everything: food, gas, shelter, clothing, books, entertainment ...
I discussed this recently with a friend of the family who works in stocks. He knew about it. The government is going to decouple its domestic economy from the global economy, but without any real benefits to the end consumer. Following a collapse, personal debts will remain as outstanding actionable liabilities, whereas corporate debt will be wiped clean from the slate.
Purchasing freedom as we understand it today will be gone. The corporates have been pushing this for a long time, and sweetheart deals have already been reached across the board. That means: fewer products, less choice, more standardization. In other words -- a permanent war economy.
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>>OP, you say you are an American citizen. You spelled "defence" using the British spelling. Was that because you were talking about the British? Are you also British? MI6?<<
I´m an American citizen. My father was Canadian. The Brits refer to their DoD as the Ministry of Defence, with a "c".
I never felt comfortable with MI6 employees, although I did pick up a lot of Britishisms when I was over there. I felt at home with ordinary Brits, but there´s a certain class of folks at senior levels who don´t seem quite human.
The standard for written communications on the European continent is British English, not American English. That´s been more or less institutionalized with the development of the EU. In real terms, the UK intel services stand apart from the continentals, while Germany, France and the Benelux nations have a more integrated system of cooperation.
The Danes are run by Mossad. The Italians have their own way of doing things, but cooperate more closely with the Spanish and Greeks.
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OKC happened for the same reason that informs everything else in our crumbling society: the economic imperative.
(The older I get, the more I sound like the young people we used to see as "enemies of the state". Especially when I talk about the military-industrial complex, which has morphed quite singularly into the military-more-military complex.)
Throughout the 1990s, the United States found herself in a very unusual position. We had no enemies. At least not officially. Good news for us, bad news for defense contractors and the national security state.
Remember the "Peace Dividend"? Where did that go? Did you see a 30 percent drop in your taxes? No, citizens went on paying more and more of their hard-earned income into the federal coffers because, we were told, keeping our vast military superstructure in mothballs was an expensive business.
But still, it wasn’t enough for those who feared loss of momentum in the War On Whatever. While all was quiet on the western and the eastern fronts, the federal government reckoned it was time for a major overhaul and upgrade of the soon-to-come Homeland Security cartel. Nice new ballistics and advanced weaponry for the boys and gals in law enforcement. The only question for the federal government and their corporate lobbyists was: So, huh, where’s the enemy, guys?
Look, there he is. Timothy McVeigh. And behind him, a vast army of government hating patriots. Now wouldn’t it be just darned unfortunate if he were to blow up a huge municipal building and kill lots of innocent people? Yeah, I guess it would. Then we’d have to give you guys a whole heap of new contracts for all that law enforcement technology I know you’ve got lying around someplace.
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>>Can you talk about the Helping Hand or Hidden Hand? I cant remember which one it was. German Guy said that Paul Wolfowitz was in charge of that.<<
I haven´t yet read everything linked yesterday, but I can confirm the existence of a group called the Hidden Hand. You can either see it as a coherent organization or, as I believe, more a systematic way of working. One of Tony Blair’s top law enforcement officers actually echoed this in describing al Qaida as "a way of working" rather than a hierarchical group.
The HH, as I understood it, is an economics driven intelligence hub. When the British economist Adam Smith spoke of the "hidden hand of the free market", he may have been talking about a more sinister group too. The whole HH thing goes back to Napoleon, who was always pictured with his hand hidden inside his jacket. That became a kind of sign, just like the Freemasons have their own special handshakes and facial twitches.
Napoleon and his crowd were financed completely by Jewish bankers – the same Jewish/Dutch bankers who financed BOTH sides in the English Civil War. The HH these days is a pure banking and finance cult run out of Switzerland and the City of London. I’d say around 90 percent are either Jewish banking dynasties or are owned by them. They built the modern state of Israel from the ground up and they have a pretty keen interest in maintaining multiple war scenarios.
It didn’t surprise me to see Wolfowitz head up the World Bank. He’s with his own kind of people there. Wolfowitz is a traitor to the United States.
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>>Do you think OPEC would drop the $USD as the petro currency?<<
That´s what all this fighting is about. Saddam was going the same route, which GW found terribly "evil".
The United States is committed to taking possession of Saudi reserves first and Iranian reserves later. Maybe. Because Iran has nukes, making the latter option all the more fraught with difficulties.
The OPEC nations would very much like to ditch the petrodollar in exchange for a mixed basket of pricing currencies. But there are political consequences. Are they (and the rest of the world) prepared to pay them?
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>>Whats the deal with that general being sacked? Do you think he knew something and was trying to stop a strike? Theres even been some speculation theres some kind of on-going coup within the US army against bush, any creedance?<<
Interesting question, and I´m not yet fully up to scratch on everything happening over there. But for what it´s worth, I´ll tell you what I think.
There was a coup d´etat in America last November. There was a coup d´etat in America in 2000. But the coup d´etat that started it all happened on Friday, November 22, 1963.
Where was George Herbert Walker Bush that day? Interesting question, with lots of different answers. And where was George Herbert Walker Bush on March 30, 1981?
Strange things happen to people who run foul of the Bush family.
If Byrnes was heading up a military revolt, local or otherwise, expect him to be diagnosed with severe depression in the coming weeks and a strange compulsion to put a gun to his head and pull the trigger.
In any event, instances of near mutiny in recent years are nothing new. The Chiefs of Staff almost came to the point of arresting Bush and Cheney at the beginning of 2003. In the end, lack of assurances from Messrs Mueller and Tenet caused them to back away.
If they had only stayed the course, thousands of young Americans and about 200,000 Iraqi citizens would still be alive today.
One thing we do know: There´s going to be a major "terrorist" event in NYC within the next two weeks. If Byrnes was a party to that information, faulted it and took a stand, he may very well turn out to be one of America´s greatest heroes.
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wish I could foresee natural disasters and alien invasions. I saw a UFO when I was a little boy, but since then very little. Not all UFOs are from "out there", by the way.
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>>What do you think will prompt the upcoming global conflict? There have been a lot of chess moves, both economically and militarily, but for now it seems the concerns are more strategic.
Any thoughts. In my opinion, it seems some time was bought with manipulation of the markets in order to guarantee a succesful transition to a wartime economy. Do you feel that the sudden economic downturn will result in immediate military response, or do you feel that a certain military action will signal the economic house of cards to come falling down?<<
The Bush administration has busied itself with two areas of concern in terms of the great chess game: South America and the Middle East. Both are about resources, chiefly energy.
The global conflict of which you speak is already in its incipient warm phase. It will become "hot" the moment China sees the ratio of her :energy consumption~economic growth: tip away from profitable sustainability to one of economic dependence. Recently she revaluated the yuan, which was ostensibly welcomed by Bush, and she will continue to offload dollar reserves in favor of the euro and the Swiss franc.
The flashpoint is not so much Iran (although a US-Israeli attack would devastate the international economy), but Saudi Arabia. Bush will not attack Iran, because that nation not only has nuclear weaponry pointed at Tel Aviv, but also holds a large number of legally and internationally recognized binding contracts with both Russia and China that must be honored.
An attack on Iran would mean WW3 within weeks, if not days. The Chinese and the Russians will not sit back and do nothing, as was very largely the case with Iraq. They simply have too much to lose in a very real existential sense. There will be war and it will be a nuclear war.
Bush knows this. However, although S.A. is a major energy supplier to both Russia and China, the diplomatic and political situation is very different. America will soon be INVITED to honor its existing military treaty with the oil-rich kingdom on the pretext that the (soon-coming) "terrorist" assaults on NYC have destabilized its ability to govern itself securely.
It’s going to be a classic piece of political chess playing. The Bush administration not only gets to put America on a fascist-style totalitarian war footing, it also gets to grab Saudi Arabia and everything under it. For keeps.
Then Iran. Maybe.
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>>This is a dumb question, but is something going to happen here in the D.C. area. Should I worry? I have children.<<
Based upon everything I´ve been discussing, reading and hearing over the last few weeks, the only danger is to New York City. I can say with near certainty that nothing will happen in the DC area.
The attacks will be on the financial center of the country, including Wall Street and its environs. The government wills it so, because it MUST safely collapse the economy in a "controlled" fashion.
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