SUN RANT NOV 02
Alchemike:
hey...you still here???
BARDSQUILL:
heyyy
Alchemike:
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20020918/103236120009.html
Alchemike:
debunked here...
Alchemike:
http://www.snopes.com/science/sunboom.htm
BARDSQUILL:
yea, got that somewheres
BARDSQUILL:
gonna look at sun see if it's blown
up
BARDSQUILL:
nop
Alchemike:
maybe Selo's [Lakota] off by a few
years...
Alchemike:
whos...
Alchemike:
whoa
Alchemike:
maybe you seen this...but
dunno...
Alchemike:
ok...that sun story...quotes a guy supposedly
named dr. piers van der meer...
BARDSQUILL:
yea, trouble is, I can't locate
him
Alchemike:
well, i located somethin...
Alchemike:
http://almaz.com/nobel/physics/1984b.html
Alchemike:
http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1984/meer-autobio.html
Alchemike:
simon???
BARDSQUILL:
hmm, Simon, Peter, wonder if it's the same
dude
Alchemike:
...did you read this guy's bio???
Alchemike:
simon peter...
Alchemike:
simon worked at cern...and
fermilab...
Alchemike:
cern is definitely ties to the
esa...
BARDSQUILL:
bad places
Alchemike:
agree
Alchemike:
oops...take that back...cannot confirm he
worked for fermi...but did related cooperative work thru cern...
Alchemike:
and get this...
Alchemike:
http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/nobel/1984/1984l.html
Alchemike:
second paragraph from bottom...
Alchemike:
It is another step toward proof of the
unification theory, a concept that preoccupied early 20th century scientists
such as Einstein and Enrico Fermi. It helps explain the process by which
matter decays, giving off beta rays, which is essential to archaeological
dating. It is also an illustration of how the sun's nuclear generators work
to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
BARDSQUILL: Bearden declares that scalar
weapons can screw up the solar dynamics from earth
Alchemike:
yea...
Alchemike: do you think that article
was for real...just slipped in the world weekly news to throw
people???
Alchemike:
and the dr is simon not piers???
Alchemike:
above quote from boston globe too
freaky...
BARDSQUILL:
maybe piers translates simon
BARDSQUILL:
that's why I couldn't locate
piers
Alchemike:
reconcile statement above with this one
from wwn story...
Alchemike:
The core temperature of the Sun is normally
27 million degrees Fahrenheit. But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming
49 million degrees, says Dr. Van der Meer, leader of a team of Amsterdam-based
space scientists who've been tracking the changes in the Sun.
Alchemike: first quote from 1984...It
is also an illustration of how the sun's nuclear generators work to keep
from overheating and destroying life on earth.
Alchemike: 2nd one from
2002
Alchemike:
do you have any archived solar data from
july 1, 2002???
BARDSQUILL:
let me look
BARDSQUILL:
YES
BARDSQUILL:
we got hit by a superwave
gravwaves2.html
Alchemike:
gulp
BARDSQUILL:
firesun.gif
BARDSQUILL:
There is more than meets the eye concerning
the huge solar prominence observed on the SOHO EIT. Simultaneously on July
1st, 2002, the ELFRAD detection system recorded an anomaly whose amplitude
reached a peak at 1319 UTC time.
BARDSQUILL: jeez, my email is kicking
back on me
Alchemike: figures...we just find
out the sun's gonna explode and you can't send email...
Alchemike:
sheesh
Alchemike:
trying to learn about kepler's star...went
nova 1604
BARDSQUILL:
keep goin gonna post all this
Alchemike: bardo, could this somehow
be related to the jupiter stories???
Alchemike:
man...this story don't make
sense...
Alchemike:
"It's quite similar to when a star goes
supernova at the end of its life," Dr. Van der Meer explains. "Over the past
11 years, we've seen our Sun go through changes frighteningly like those
that took place in Kepler's Star right before it was observed going supernova
in 1604."
Alchemike: how could they know anything
about the particulars of kepler's star in 1604?
Alchemike:
whole story maybe part truth part
bs...
Alchemike:
i dunno...
BARDSQUILL:
heyyy, maybe that's why i got punted off
the show yesterday, remember something else i said
Alchemike: aha...go on
Alchemike:
whoa...just noticed something else
kent...
Alchemike: yea
BARDSQUILL:
The
Kybalion
Alchemike:
ok...dig this...
Alchemike:
10/17/84 simon van der meer gets nobel prize
for physics...
Alchemike:
http://www.nobel.se/physics/laureates/1984/press.html
Alchemike:
12/7/84...2010 release in
theatres...
Alchemike:
http://hallaudiobook.com/index.php/Mode/product/AsinSearch/B00004VVN8/name/2010%253A%2520Th
e%2520Year%2520We%2520Make%2520Contact/browse/2324/page/1
Alchemike:
18 years later, we get the weekly world
news story...looks like disinfo, cept for the van der meer clue...was maybe
a tipoff to look at simon...his research directly related to this key section
of wwn story...The core temperature of the Sun is normally 27 million degrees
Fahrenheit. But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming 49 million degrees,
says Dr. Van der Meer, leader of a team of Amsterdam-based space scientists
who've been tracking the changes in the Sun.
Alchemike: his noble was awarded for
research which, 18 years ago, illustrated how the sun's nuclear generators
work to keep from overheating and destroying life on earth.
Alchemike:
http://www.tmgnow.com/IMAGES/mayacsms.jpg
Alchemike:
nuther representation of the cube of
space...
BARDSQUILL:
damn save the im i lost it
Alchemike:
i saved...
Alchemike:
will email...your puter actin up?
BARDSQUILL:
no, just goofed up
Alchemike:
email workin now?
BARDSQUILL:
guess so sent to myself it worked
Alchemike:
btw...http://www.insightmag.com/news/321357.html
Alchemike:
http://www.insightmag.com/news/321357.html
BARDSQUILL:
yup, gots that'n
Alchemike:
k
http://www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=98
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Alchemike:
bardo???
you around???
BARDSQUILL:
heeeere
Alchemike:
did you ever get
that email i sent you with our im from yesterday???
Alchemike:
been thinkin and
feeling that we hit on some important stuff...
Alchemike:
van der meer in
particular...and the 701 superwave
Alchemike:
7/02
BARDSQUILL:
yes, loaded it
Alchemike:
i'm reeling...
Alchemike:
thinking the torps
been an attempt to keep the sun under control...
Alchemike:
certain earthly
events may have affected sol...nukes, scalars, haarps, etc...over the years...
Alchemike:
in ways we cannot
fathom...
Alchemike:
speakin o
that...great...idiots
Alchemike:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/bayarea/4530780.htm
Alchemike:
simon van der meer
supposedly retired in 1990...
BARDSQUILL:
with you, loading
info
Alchemike:
k
BARDSQUILL:
The US Air
Force developed a top-secret plan to detonate a nuclear bomb on the moon
as a display of military might at the height of the Cold War. 'It was
clear the main aim of the proposed detonation was a PR exercise and
a show of one-upmanship. The Air Force wanted a mushroom cloud so large
it would be visible on earth,' he said yesterday. 'The US was lagging
behind in the space race.
Alchemike:
sounds like
io...
Alchemike:
sun/jupiter...2001/2010...like
it's acting out...
BARDSQUILL:
hell, they nuked
earth a thousand times
Alchemike:
i know
Alchemike:
but what was
the 'action at a distance' effect of all of those nukes...???
Alchemike:
those mf's send
ripples thru space/time...
Alchemike:
who knows what
they do/did...
BARDSQUILL:
Cathie says they
had to be on grid points
Alchemike:
yea...
BARDSQUILL:
so what do earth
chakras do, they connect to the out there
Alchemike:
makes a point that
a nuke has never been detonated by missile...
Alchemike:
all have been basically
static detonations...
Alchemike:
earth chakras...i
dunno...think i can handle the concept...but how thye function, etc...no
idea...
Alchemike:
earth alive...think
that's a given now...
Alchemike:
same with other
heavenly bodies i imagine...
Alchemike:
maybe conscious
is a better word
Alchemike:
so van der meer
gets the nobel in 1984...discovered the w and z boson particles...
Alchemike:
http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/history/AM-history02-b.html
Alchemike:
playin with antimatter
and shit at cern..dangerous, dangerous stuff...
Alchemike:
also, the fact
that these guys were experimenting with these machines and looking for quantum
type particles leads me to believe that it is related to the burisch material
and the ganesh particle...
Alchemike:
so simon van der
meer is in all this stuff...all very directly related to the way we understand
things like stars...like our star...
Alchemike:
then after he gets
the nobel in 84 he basically drops off the map...
Alchemike:
only thing i can
find is a reference in his autobiography that says he retired in 1990...
Alchemike:
i'm guessin they
took him black...either with his permission or otherwise, like burisch...
Alchemike:
then july 1,
2002 we get the superwave...
BARDSQUILL:
hmmm, recently
cern or desy sayin that the boson particle, the god particle may not exost
at all
Alchemike:
and sept we get
the weekly world news story bout the sun going kapow in 6 years...story
references 7/1 solar events...
Alchemike:
but is quickly
debunked...
Alchemike:
but is actually
relevant, i think, cause of the simon van der meer info...no coincidence...
Alchemike:
now we got jupe
and io, etc...
Alchemike:
co coincidence
Alchemike:
no
Alchemike:
the telling article
re: van der meer was the one from the boston globe...10/18/84...
Alchemike:
http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/nobel/1984/1984l.html
Alchemike:
It is another step
toward proof of the unification theory, a concept that preoccupied early
20th century scientists such as Einstein and Enrico Fermi. It helps explain
the process by which matter decays, giving off beta rays, which is essential
to archaeological dating. It is also an illustration of how the sun's
nuclear generators work to keep from overheating and destroying life on
earth.
BARDSQUILL:
keep goin
Alchemike:
now from the weekly
world news story...
Alchemike:
When that happens
Earth will be instantly incinerated along with all life on it.
Alchemike:
on it...
Alchemike:
not in it
or under it...on it...
Alchemike:
hopi...lakota...indigenous
all know...they talk about goin underground...
Alchemike:
now final note...
Alchemike:
weekly world news
owned by american media, inc...
Alchemike:
ami...
Alchemike:
ami was the number
one target in the anthrax mailings last fall...
Alchemike:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/6/4/231130.shtml
Alchemike:
so...an educated
guess says that ami being used by someone(s) to leak valid info...
Alchemike:
sorry for the rant,
but i needed to get that down...
BARDSQUILL:
yes, got stuff
happening everywhere here.
Alchemike:
we need to do some
research on the solar surface temps...
Alchemike:
make that core
temps
Alchemike:
k...
Alchemike:
whomever was being
quoted in the wwn story at least had his facts straight...
Alchemike:
from the article
again...
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20020918/103236120009.html
Alchemike:
The core
temperature of the Sun is normally 27 million degrees Fahrenheit.
But in recent years it's climbed to an alarming 49 million degrees, says
Dr. Van der Meer...
Alchemike:
http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/CPEP/Chart_Pages/5.Plasmas/SunLayers.html
Alchemike:
The innermost layer
of the sun is the core. With a density of 160 g/cm^3, 10 times that of lead,
the core might be expected to be solid. However, the core's temperature
of 15 million kelvins (27 million degrees Fahrenheit) keeps it in a gaseous
state.
Alchemike:
bardo...we
need to find out current or recent core temp of sol...
Alchemike:
i think our star's
got a fever...
Alchemike:
will catch up with
you in a while...
Alchemike:
take care bro...and
sorry for the one sided convo...
Alchemike:
but i repeat...
Alchemike:
we need to find out current or recent
core temp of sol...
Solar
wind radial and latitudinal structure: Electron density and core temperature
from Ulysses thermal noise spectroscopy