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COMMENTARY [Keep coming back, info plowing in fast]
1998 OX4 Uncovered secondarily in our Search for the Madonna Object
9/25/00 ALARMING UPDATE Getting Ready for Impact with 1998 OX4?
The 1998 OX4 virtual impactors 1998OX4 BRITISH ASTEROID FILES 2 3
Date: 9/25/00 11:42:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Anony Mous reports forces beyond our sphere have attacked and fragmented the incomer. Fragments will pass through the gap. The accompanying energy bolts will be absorbed by the Grid or Repelled. All danger from THIS incomer has been dispelled.
9/23/00 C2 23:50 Whatever this is the forward position is ominous.
9/25/00 13:42 C3 Another weird zoomer |
9/25/00 C3 15:42 Changed Direction? |
9/29/00 16:06 C2
Date: 9/29/00 10:04:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time Any idea what the object in lower left corner of the picture is? It almost looks as if the sun is reflecting off its right side. |
Date: 9/27/00 7:18:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time About the object that seems to have "changed directions"...In the resolution it seems to be an entire object...not a streak. I went back and looked at the C3 original to see where it was is respect to the sun. It is a borderline possibilty that it is lit from the left by the sun... If you look at the dark side you could draw an arch(it almost seems clear in the resolution of your posting) from the top to the bottom of the streak...like the dark side of the moon. If I were to describe the possible shape I would describe it as "looking at the illuminated edge of a spoon shaped piece of rock. |
HAS THE SOLAR PLASMA DEFINED A DARK ENTITY?
Mysterious Flash Across California Sky May Have Been an Asteroid Chip
MESSAGE BOARD: September 27, 2000 at 09:22:36 AM EDT
Was reported on our local television weather broadcast that a spectacular meteor was seen approximately 9:30pm EDST... orange in color and the size of a golf ball.
76P/MARS/PHOBOS Update Can Hubble See 76P Today? COMET CENTRAL
SpaceWeather - One of several near-Earth asteroids that flew past our planet in September was no ordinary space rock. 2000 DP107 appears to be a double! Radar images show that the asteroid has two components separated by as much as one kilometer. Astronomers are calling for additional observations while DP107 is still close to Earth. At 14th magnitude, the asteroid is visible in 8 to 10 inch amateur telescopes with CCD cameras
EDITOR: based on comments below it seems most important to keep watching the SOHO C3 and C2
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SLEUTHS IMPORTANT if possible we need an ORBITAL on this object
Stream of events and imput
Date: 9/15/00 2:27:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Observations:
Trajectory is 15 degrees off elliptic.
It's aspect ratio is changing as evidenced by differing levels of reflected light coming off of it from frame to frame. Possible rotation of a non-spherical body?
Speed across star field seems high. This would tend to make me feel its closer to earth rather that far away, big and very fast. SOHO is a million miles out to the sunward of earth.
If its as far away as Mercury's orbit it is very big (remember Mercury transit a month or so ago, it wasn't much bigger).
Lack of reflective wings makes me feel it's on this side of the sun, not the farside.
More later
Date: 9/15/00 2:13:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Really strange! The object comes out of the dark and gets brighter. This is a hint, that it is only up to some hundreds meter away from the satellite and is illuminated by its sun reflection.
Date: 9/15/00 10:20:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent
Hi there..How goes Thanks for heads up....seesm "our friends" are due in as calculated..
Check out that second incoming, I think we said some time back there may in fact be three!!
Keep in contact with Jeoff from Houston, suggest that the second may be the secondary....I wonder if Wormwood is attempting an entry....smack on time just as the Olympic games started!
In Reply to: Object seen on C3, possibly incoming! posted by on September 15, 2000 at 04:05:37 PM EDT
Posting:
That is a pretty interesting object... Let's see what the orbit folks say!
Date: 9/15/00 7:43:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: cplyler@elfrad.com (Charlie Plyler)
Very strange indeed! There is also an unexplained signal which corresponds with that time period. At 1300 UT on the 14, the Elfrad detectors began recording electromagnetic pulses in the frequency range of 2.76 to 2.95 hertz. These signals became stronger during the day reaching a peak amplitude at 1730 UT then gradually became weaker and faded out around 2400 UT. The beginning frequency started at 2.76hz and reached it's peak of 2.95hz at the same time as the peak amplitude. This is an indication of doppler shift perhaps caused by the earth's rotation if the source is in the direction of the Sun. The peaks also coincided with the time of local noon considering daylight savings time.
Elfrad also recorded the same sequence today, Sept. 15, with the same doppler shift and same peak frequency times. I have enclosed two screen shots of this signal. The first shows the six hour time period from 1200 to 1800 UT and the second shows the period from 1800 to 2400 UT. The total amplitude today compared to yesterday indicates a slightly stronger signal which may mean the source is closer than yesterday. We will perhaps be able to make this determination with tomorrow's data.
Charlie Plyler
NEXT DAY
Date: 9/16/00 6:06:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, The signal Elfrad detected on the 14th and 15th failed to make an appearance today the 16th. The anomaly apparently has disappeared. Enclosed is a another six hour screen shot, beginning at 1200 UT showing all signals from 2.7 to 3 hertz.
Charlie Plyler Elfrad
Date: 9/15/00 8:58:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Do you have sleuths who can obtain an ephemeris (RA, Dec) of this object vs. time? Someone who can scale with pixels? If so, I would like to have the measurements.
I suspect that this object has a direct orbit like 2000 QW7 except that it is passing inside Earth's orbit instead of outside it. If I had RA, Dec. vs. time, I think I could compute an approximate orbit.
Peace, Glen
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In Reply to: Re: Object seen on C3, possibly incoming! posted by on
September 15, 2000 at 05:27:23 PM EDT
Posting: Please check this out from the 14th. It appears Hubble is on to some surprise. Link below. Let me know. 09/14/00 Comet-like object displays unexpected crater, mysterious ice |
Date: 9/15/00 7:28:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Please inform me if you get a reply to orbit of object.
Thanks,
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/15/00 9:59:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<< Kent, Please inform me if you get a reply to orbit of object. Thanks,
Jeff from Houston >>
This is the most preferred bet so far,
Asteroid 2000 QS7
orbital elements and simulator at:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2000+QS7
Keep watch for additional theories and commets at:
Kent
Date: 9/15/00 11:03:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<< Kent, Ok checked orbit of Qs7. Depending on position of SOHO if this was QS7 then it should remain in view through duration of near orbit of earth due to crossing in front of earth by orbital calculations. Guess we need to know where SOHO is currently located in relation to earth and the object.
Jeff from Houston>>
That view of the Sun is achieved by operating SOHO from a permanent vantage point 1.5 million kilometers ahead of the Earth in a halo orbit around the L1 Lagrangian point.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/descriptions/mission/english/page1.html
About a million miles out. Object is on the portside of course. How far? Not sure this can be established due to the limitations of the flat canvas--until we are certain of the identity of the object--unless someone can triangulate from the movie itself, which might prove only to be a rough estimate.
We have some doppler info, Hubble info and more will come in I am sure.
Kent
Date: 9/15/00 10:33:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Ok checked orbit of Qs7. Depending on position of SOHO if this was QS7 then it should remain in view through duration of near orbit of earth due to crossing in front of earth by orbital calculations. Guess we need to know where SOHO is currently located in relation to earth and the object.
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/15/00 11:11:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Figured Soho in a LaGrange point ,but again where in relationship to earth and sun ? An orbital plot of SOHO,in a time reference mode, would be helpful. This way QS7 can be ruled in or out.
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/15/00 11:35:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, If this object is incoming would suspect Soho is currently on the moon side of L1. That being said earths orbital trajectory would seem to put it near the path of this object. I can't stress the importance of getting a fix on this object although it may be nothing.
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/16/00 7:51:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time
<< Kent, Figured Soho in a LaGrange point ,but again where in relationship to earth and sun ? An orbital plot of SOHO,in a time reference mode, would be helpful. This way QS7 can be ruled in or out. Jeff from Houston>>
Object just went off the SOHO field of view:
700K animation
150k animation
I have posted this event to comet board at:
http://earthchangestv.efc-inc.com/Comets/
And the wider audience at
Hopefully a more detailed orbital fix will emerge from the astrophysicists at large. Again, all commentary I collect is found at:
Will give it a hard go today.
Kent
Date: 9/15/00 10:16:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Check out c3 images at 9/15/00 12:18 and 12:42. Besides incoming...WEDGE is back!
PS: This incoming thing is really moving...I hope its small and close in to SOHO. If its as far out as Venus's orbit its big and Very very very fast.
Subj: Multiple Bogies or a dirty lens?
Date: 9/16/00 8:42:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Hi Kent: I noticed these 5 feint 'anomolies' on
http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/mpg/current_c3.gif
best wishes my friend
Date: 9/16/00 7:55:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Hi, Am a daily reader of Sightings and wondered about your Heads Up thoughts with this new incoming object. WOuld you know if Planet X, 12th Planet, was headed this way? Supposedly it had tons of trash surrounding it as it heads this way again on its 36000 year orbit. Seems like it would have unusual amount of gravitational pull. Many predictions, including Sitchin's books, Zeta Sight, even Mitch Battross/Earth Changes finally catching up with reasoning what is causing these solar flares, and weather conditions....
These contrails/chemtrails could be someones idea of controlling us all should we panic in a major earth change???
I have had a vision that won't go away, and all I can say this mighty boulder like rock getting bigger and bigger and intimidating as heck as it rolls this way. Have we been here before? Can we turn back the hands of time again?
I bet you are very scientific, is NASA on to this? I have a few friends from Roswell museum, Bill & Micro Mike with Their Frass Meteorite from Mars, with unbelievable "Life" /"glassies"experiaments, a friend named Sadar is trying to get Jeff to put on his sight. NASA hangs up on them.
I am a member of the Planetary Society and many coincidences have happened to me in regards to these incoming bodies, I can't seem to get away from them. My husband has a metaphysical website, we track earth changes, and its becoming a full time job. So, I always look at coincidences as Nature's way to pay attention.
I hope its nothing, but please keep us posted,
ICQ Internet Message, 9/16/00 10:33 PST
The newly-discovered Near-Earth asteroid (NEA) 2000 RD53 will pass 0.03 AU from our planet on Sept.17th. There is no danger of a collision with the 400 meter space rock. However, the close encounter offers astronomers a second chance this month to study an NEA at close range. Amateurs with 8 inch or larger telescopes can also monitor 2000 RD53.
In Reply to: Re: Object seen on C3, possibly incoming! posted by on September 16, 2000 at 11:03:22
Hi STEADMAN, I think it may be 2P/Encke, I sent an email to Doug Biesecker for conformation, I'll let you know if I hear from him.
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/whatsnew.html
Regards
BBC ARTICLE: Asteroids 'threaten' Earth
The Cosmic Time Bomb Waiting To Go Off - Deadly Asteroids
9/16/00 9:21:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Regarding the recent "Incoming" investigation/discussion, IMHO the object in question is Comet 2P/Encke.
The following site presents detailed information as to Comet 2P/Encke's recent activity: Sungrazing Comet's
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/whatsnew.html
Orbital elements and orbit simulation of 2P/Encke: (note: zoom in on the Inner Planets, go back to September 14th/15th and you will see the similarities):
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2P%2FEncke&group=all
Here are the predicted dates in which 2P/Encke was to be in the LASCO C3 camera's FOV (note, these positions are rough estimates):
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/encke3.txt
#VERSION=3
#DATE-OBS: 2000/09/14
#TIME-OBS: 00:42:05.614
#DETECTOR: C3
#FILTER: Clear
#POLAR: Clear
#OBSERVER: doug
#FEAT_CODE: 10=COMET
#IMAGE_TYPE: DIFFERENCE
#COMMENT: COMET 2P/ENCKE
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
18.15 2000/09/14 00:42:05 110.5 C3 10 223.0 421.0
18.39 2000/09/14 01:42:05 110.4 C3 10 219.0 420.0
18.52 2000/09/14 02:18:05 110.4 C3 10 217.0 419.0
18.63 2000/09/14 02:42:05 110.3 C3 10 215.0 419.0
18.76 2000/09/14 03:18:05 110.3 C3 10 213.0 418.0
18.87 2000/09/14 03:42:05 110.2 C3 10 211.0 418.0
18.96 2000/09/14 04:18:06 109.9 C3 10 209.0 419.0
19.09 2000/09/14 04:42:06 110.0 C3 10 207.0 418.0
19.22 2000/09/14 05:18:05 110.0 C3 10 205.0 417.0
19.30 2000/09/14 05:42:05 110.1 C3 10 204.0 416.0
19.46 2000/09/14 06:18:05 110.0 C3 10 201.0 416.0
19.52 2000/09/14 06:42:05 109.9 C3 10 200.0 416.0
19.84 2000/09/14 08:18:05 109.9 C3 10 195.0 414.0
20.13 2000/09/14 09:18:06 109.8 C3 10 190.0 413.0
20.19 2000/09/14 09:42:05 109.7 C3 10 189.0 413.0
20.32 2000/09/14 10:18:08 109.8 C3 10 187.0 412.0
20.41 2000/09/14 10:42:06 109.5 C3 10 185.0 413.0
20.56 2000/09/14 11:18:05 109.7 C3 10 183.0 411.0
20.58 2000/09/14 11:42:05 109.4 C3 10 182.0 413.0
20.82 2000/09/14 12:18:05 109.3 C3 10 178.0 412.0
20.84 2000/09/14 12:42:05 109.4 C3 10 178.0 411.0
21.08 2000/09/14 13:42:05 109.4 C3 10 174.0 410.0
21.19 2000/09/14 14:18:05 109.3 C3 10 172.0 410.0
21.32 2000/09/14 14:42:05 109.3 C3 10 170.0 409.0
21.43 2000/09/14 15:18:05 109.2 C3 10 168.0 409.0
21.69 2000/09/14 16:18:05 109.3 C3 10 164.0 407.0
22.10 2000/09/14 18:18:05 109.1 C3 10 157.0 406.0
22.27 2000/09/14 18:42:05 109.0 C3 10 154.0 406.0
Also, here are the predicted dates in which 2P/Encke was to be in the LASCO C2 camera's FOV (note, these positions are rough estimates):
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/encke2.txt
#VERSION=3
#DATE-OBS: 2000/09/11
#TIME-OBS: 09:59:04.016
#DETECTOR: C2
#FILTER: Orange
#POLAR: Clear
#OBSERVER: doug
#FEAT_CODE: 10=COMET
#IMAGE_TYPE: RUNNING DIFFERENCE
#COMMENT: COMET 2P/ENCKE
# HEIGHT DATE TIME ANGLE TEL FC COL ROW
6.51 2000/09/11 17:48:05 125.2 C2 10 79.0 199.0
6.42 2000/09/11 17:24:06 125.6 C2 10 87.0 201.0
6.33 2000/09/11 16:54:29 125.9 C2 10 95.0 203.0
6.26 2000/09/11 16:36:05 126.2 C2 10 101.0 204.0
6.06 2000/09/11 15:36:05 127.1 C2 10 119.0 208.0
5.83 2000/09/11 14:18:31 128.4 C2 10 141.0 211.0
5.76 2000/09/11 14:03:34 128.5 C2 10 146.0 214.0
5.67 2000/09/11 13:35:03 129.1 C2 10 155.0 215.0
4.98 2000/09/11 09:59:04 133.4 C2 10 219.0 228.0
4.90 2000/09/11 09:30:27 134.0 C2 10 227.0 229.0
4.84 2000/09/11 09:15:31 134.1 C2 10 231.0 232.0
4.75 2000/09/11 08:46:58 135.0 C2 10 240.0 233.0
4.66 2000/09/11 08:18:26 135.7 C2 10 249.0 235.0
4.61 2000/09/11 08:03:29 135.9 C2 10 253.0 237.0
4.46 2000/09/11 07:06:31 137.5 C2 10 269.0 239.0
Now, I have not personally checked these dates against the LASCO images yet. However, I will do so and post any discrepancies I may find.
Still, it is in my opinion that this object is indeed Comet 2P/Encke.
Date: 9/16/00 3:10:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time
In Reply to: Re: Object seen on C3, possibly incoming! posted by on September 16, 2000 at 11:03:22
Hi STEADMAN, I think it may be 2P/Encke, I sent an email to Doug Biesecker for conformation, I'll let you know if I hear from him.
Kent, I thought it was funny that the 2 brothers of ANU, the leader of 12th Planet, had 2 sons he sent to Earth, Enki & Enlil. Are you familiar with Zecharia Sitchin's work? I will try to get this info forwarded to him.
Date: 9/16/00 2:34:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Hi Kent!
I found this applet for 2p/Enke, September 2000 at
http://www.astroarts.com/comets/2000/0002P/java-orbit.html
Now, my browser refuses to bring it up, but brings upn your applet for 2000 QS7.
Please compare and let us know what you think on the comments-page.
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9/17/00 12:14:49 AM Pacific Daylight TimeCheck out the latest real-time
LASCO C3 image:
SOHO either accidentally veered off center, or it was hit by something. Coincidence? Or is it related to recent "Incoming"? |
Date: 9/17/00 3:23:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time
John Glenn's discovery of comet Enke. Remember the observations he made on his recent voyage?
Search for John Glenn and comet Encke and you will get Richard Hoagland's article titled: Oh My God They Killed Soho. I could not find it still listed on enterprisemission.
EDITOR: Of interest
In pointing out several periods of multiple impact events in the past (one coinciding with the construction of Stonehenge) due to a disturbance or fragmentation in the stream, Clube and Napier discern that there must be several massive "hidden" comets in the stream, dormant comets invisible to our telescopes buried in the dust and debris.
Whipple, for one, concurred. He pointed out that Encke, some 5 kilometers across, most probably had several dormant and even larger companions. In addition there have so far been two other comets identified in the stream and 13 Earth crossing asteroids.
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EDITOR:
IMPORTANT to the Encke theory:
Doug B's Science
Page
Encke is now in C2! We've seen it in C2 and also with the SOHO/UVCS instrument. A few LASCO C3 and C2 positions of the comet are given here. Note: Column and Row refer to X and Y as measured from the bottom left corner of a full 1024x1024 image. An image from UVCS is available here. |
NOT ENCKE
According to the NASA orbit calculations, the incoming comet is not 2P/Encke.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2P%2FEncke&group=all
Comet 2P/Encke would be behind the sun right now and we could not see it. The new comets) is traveling very very fast. There actually appear to be three, each behind the first.
EDITOR. See: CODE, MONITOR TITANIC BISMARCK
Will "X" Mark The Date? 2 3 4 5
Along the way, as evidenced both in the overt naming of the NASA/JPL Encke Website, as well as the recurring pattern of specific "Encke Ritual Alignments" we've now tracked throughout the NASA program, they have continuously acted out their role as true believers in this "Armageddon Script," they see as ultimately terminating this civilization ...
EDITOR:
RE: Your important comment, "According to the NASA orbit calculations, the incoming comet is not 2P/Encke"
The material I've received on Comet Encke is at:
Considerable data and orbital info, as well as mention that Encke has been recently seen on the C2.
Also see:
Doug B's Science Page
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/whatsnew.html
Someone also sent this info:
"Whipple, for one, concurred. He pointed out that Encke, some 5 kilometers across, most probably had several dormant and even larger companions. In addition there have so far been two other comets identified in the stream and 13 Earth crossing asteroids."
QUESTION: Although Encke is away behind the sun, would the alleged debris associated with Encke be so widespread as to account for the object we've been seeing? Kent
FASTWALKER
"fastwalker" US Space Command's codename for unidentified flying object coming into earth from outer space. Considered to be under intelligent control. Named derived for the object's speed.
This seems to evaluate itself into a "fastwalker" classification.
ALSO -- Note that the object in question is pursued or intercepted (actually that would be attempted interceptions) on at least 3 occasions as shown in ORBIT's enhanced movie clip (small screen).
Just note that you have one object that pops up in the middle of the pics then its gone. Next we have an object coming in from left to right that is on the same track as the incoming fastwalker but the interceptor veers off to the left of our fastwalker and continues on.
Next we have an object enter from the bottom of screen and move straight upwards before suddenly veering about 45 degrees to the left on an intercept course, and just misses the fastwalker from behind.
Now I'm not saying these are indeed intercepts, just that they would 'appear' to be that way. Yes, appearances can be deceiving but I would suggest that those interested should study the movie frames with great care and attention for little details. Still, I suspect that the object is not natural and under intelligent control.
One thing is for sure. It's an interesting hypothesis and one that has allegedly been played out many times for real at the NORAD USSCC at Cheyenne Mtn. Colorado (according to former employees).
EDITOR: see
FASTWALKER A UFO THE MILITARY TRACKED
FASTWALKER VIDEO TAPED IN JAPAN
The DSP Satellite and the FastWalker Incident - Discovery Channel - Real Video
Fast Walker Observed From Phoenix, Arizona
WAIT MAYBE IT IS ENCKE, SHEESH!
I received an email yesterday afternoon from Doug Biesecker (NASA's Comet Guy) and he confirmed the sighting
was in fact 2P/Enke.
doug@sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov
http://sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov/whatsnew.html
On Sep. 14th Doug made the comment "Has 2P/Encke undergone an outburst?" not understanding exactly what that meant I posted the question in Tom's Asteroid and Comet forum on the 15th.
"The September 14 Lightcurve graph shows that, in a span of just 15 hours, Comet Encke "flared" from a (normally) non-visible magnitude of 8.5 to a visible range comet of magnitude 6.5. Something, obviously, is getting excited in the comet's nucleus.
You may recall that Comet S4/Linear performed this very same trick right before its core became inglued. Maybe this little critter will get interesting after all!"
You can see the Comet increase in light intensity between 15:00 & 17:00 on Sep. 14th (see 2P/Encke Lightcurve below), if this comet has broken up then we may see the fragments before the comet leaves the C3.I'll be looking foreword to the next movie!
HERE WE GO, 76P
I have tried to avoid the subject of 76P here on this board since things got nasty but since you brought up that subject , where is 76P? Several months ago you said suggested it might take several months (for anything) to travel from Mars to Earth (remeber our speed of light discussion?). Assuming your statement was correctthat means it would be about anytime now for an object, any object, to have traveled the distance. Could it be said that IF 76P exploded back in June when the comet was closest to Mars or her moons and IF there were debri from the explosion that now and within the upcoming weeks Earth MIGHT encounter a debri field from that explosion?
In my above post I asked the question 'should we see the debri field in the upcoming weeks. I should restate the question based on the NASA orbits link. Restated, the question is, should we see the debri field during the next six months (because we are now entering that side of Earth's orbit which was not protected by the Sun at the time comet 76P encountered Mars.
Quite surprised no one has changed the numbers to make the drawing change; unless the drawing is a grossly deceiving optical illusion.
The "drawing" shows an orbit that would NEVER exist because the Sun is not at one of the 2 foci of the elliptical orbit.
ALL comets/planets, that orbit the Sun, have elliptical orbits with the Sun at one of the 2 foci.
Nature allows no other orbits, although some orbits can also have a 2nd Sun at the other foci, and Planets with moons have their center of gravity of the planet and all moons as the orbiting object.
Earth, also has the Sun at one of the foci; and the center of gravity of the Earth and Moon as the object that is orbiting.
Date: 9/17/00 4:34:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Hi Kent, I wonder if this piece of prophecy will interest you. Nostradamus, in various quatrains seems to hint at a major comet/asteroid/appearance around the time of the millennium and while John Paul II is Pope. No mention of it hitting earth, just very bright and very close.
An revolu du grand nombre septiesme
Apparoistra au temps Jeux d'Hecatombe,
Non esloinge du grand eage milliesme
Que les entres sortiront de leur tombe.
The year of the great seventh number revolves
The comet appears at the time of the games of death
Not far from the great age of the millennium
When the entries(competitors) will come out their tombs/graves/coffins.
Nostradamus always uses the word "apparoistra" to donate the appearance of a comet(anagram of "a star appears") and the datings and connection with what may be the Olympic Games is interesting.
I'm the author of "The Cassandra Prophecy" and have spent some 30 years studying Nostradamus. He is, of course, ambiguous to the point of being impossible to correctly translate, but I thought you may be interested anyway.
Date: 9/17/00 8:10:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Look again very carefully at the close-up 'movie' of the incoming object.
It appears that there are as many as 3-5 possible objects that seem to be "shots" fired at it. Or shall we say there appear to be there are 3 to 5 maybe more instances in which there appeared to be some chance for collision of the object in question and other objects.
Additionally, at the start of the 'enhanced close-up' movie ... we see what may be a Sun Cruiser right in the future path of this mystery object. Whatever this is it sits there for one frame (brightly) and then is gone. There appears to be one object moving toward the mystery object and seemingly moving toward a head-on collision. Later in the movie near the end, another object appears to be trying to intersect and intercept the object from a right angle (lower right area moving upwards to the left toward the object) and then coming in just behind and missing the object. That interceptor seems to start out at the very bottom middle edge goes into the view a bit then does a hard 45 degree angle turn on an intercept course. Again, this is near the end of the movie run.
There is other odd activity in those frames also that might indicate other monitoring or tracking by objects that seem to be moving in an unnatural manner.
To me it would seem that the hypothesis of the madonna object being a ship is more likely at this point based upon the other related activity. It defintitely seems to be running a gauntlet, whether real or only perceived, is hard to tell. If it is running a gauntlet, why? Is it a ship? OR could it be a comet or an asteroid intercepted by a unit that is out to protect Earth from incoming rocks? And IF that were the case then we ask "who's doing the shooting?" Us or some benevolent protectors?
Date: 9/17/00 5:53:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Also see latest Atlantis Rising mag. on web for current article by Paul LaViolette (and remember Dan) at: www.atlantisrising.com
Evidently we have INCOMING andcore explosions to deal with.
http://www.etheric.com/LaVioletteBooks/Book-talk.html
EDITOR: see, THE MAN WHO FELL FROM EARTH
Paul LaViolette hears a warning from space.
Date: 9/17/00 1:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, guess you have seen this in all the news headlines, is this what was headed our way yesterday? As in another NEO, as in 2000 RD53??
I put a query out yesterday to all scientific friends and psychic ones too, but its weird, only one wrote back.
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> Subject: Three Coronal Mass Ejections and a Near-Earth Asteroid
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No fewer than 3 coronal mass ejections appear to be heading toward Earth following solar eruptions on Friday and Saturday. The CMEs could trigger aurora at middle-latitudes when they arrive during the next few days. We invite aspiring aurora photographers to visit our online aurora gallery, which includes photo settings that worked well during the geomagnetic storm of August 12, 2000.
Also, the bright Near-Earth asteroid 2000 RD53 will fly by our planet on September 17, barely 11 times farther away than the Moon. Amateur astronomers with 8 inch or larger telescopes can spot the space rock as it zooms by. (Note: There is no relationship between the asteroid and the CMEs.)
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Date: 9/17/00 8:08:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Ok now I'm totally confused. Some reports say it is encke some do not. I checked out 2ps orbit and it certainly seemed it could be encke but the predicted frames did not quite coincide with the time stamps ie:the object appeared in several more frames after the predicted disappearance in C3. A 2nd point is again using the orbit of 2p/encke Lasco would have had to move several million miles in a few days in relationship to the sun for the object to appear where it was as encke from its initial crossing times in C2 and C3. Which is it? Can we get a definative answer? Can an ephemeris be worked out using the images we have to confirm or deny 2p/encke? And if not encke can we find out just what it is?
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/17/00 8:38:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Like to make another observation. In the C2 image of encke on Sept 9th it appeared to me a halo effect around the comet of presumable outgassing.The Madonna Object does not seem to show this same effect. It does display a variation of increasing intensities as though different surfaces are being exposed such as in a tumbling effect.
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/17/00 8:50:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time
<< Kent, Like to make another observation. In the C2 image of encke on Sept 9th it appeared to me a halo effect around the comet of presumable outgassing. The Madonna Object does not seem to show this same effect. It does display a variation of increasing intensities as though different surfaces are being exposed such as in a tumbling effect.
Jeff from Houston
BARDSQUILL@aol.com wrote: >>
No one has yet been able to interpolate an orbital of the object off the SOHO image.
One astronomer states:
09:09:24 AM
I received an email yesterday afternoon from Doug Biesecker (NASA's Comet Guy) and he confirmed the sighting was in fact 2P/Enke.
doug@sungrazer.nascom.nasa.gov
Here's another candidate:
Also, the bright Near-Earth asteroid 2000 RD53 will fly by our planet on September 17, barely 11 times farther away than the Moon. Amateur astronomers with 8 inch or larger telescopes can spot the space rock as it zooms by. (Note: There is no relationship between the asteroid and the CMEs.)
For more information please visit http://www.spaceweather.com
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http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2000+RD53&group=all&search=Search
Kent
Date: 9/17/00 9:30:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent, Yet another point to ponder, whether this was encke or another object, its appearance a day or so after the Madonna CME would point to Richard Hoagland's theory of hyperdimensional physics 101. Anyone with a basic understanding of his theory can see the relationship of angular momentum of a celestial body as being more important to the perturbations to another celestial body than that of mass or gravity.
Encke's orbit at the time of the CME was inside Mercury's orbit and its angular momentum was extremely high. It was almost directly behind the sun in relation to earth when the CME blew. A coincidence or is it another affirmation of Richard's theory?
Jeff from Houston
Date: 9/17/00 10:25:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time
I find it an interesting coincidence that The Discovery Channel is playing a 2hour special titled "Three Minutes to Impact" about asteroids today.
REPORT OF THE NEAR EARTH OBJECTS TASK FORCE PUBLISHED
In this SOHO movie of time dated images of the unidentified comet, pay special attention to the SOHO Camera movement...it distorts the angle of the comet and makes it appear as though the comet went off the screen at about 8 0-clock. The camera actually moves to the left slowly as if the camera is following the comet, otherwise, the comet would have left the screen sooner. SOHO was trying to stay on the comet. The camera moves to the left as evidenced by all the other stars on the screen moving to the right. BUT, for the first few images, you see the comet coming almost directly at SOHO. The comet is traveling extremely fast. Than, the camera moves to the left to keep the comet in the screen as it flys right by SOHO. This comet is much closer than I first believed. If it's a near miss, we'll be lucky. At this speed, ...Can someone recalculate the orbit of the comet from the first few images before the camera moved and give us an ETA and probable closest distance forcast?
Here's the link. Note the camera does not move until about 1200 hours on the 15th, than the camera starts tracking the comet and the camera moves to the left as evidenced by all other stars moving to the right.
This comet is approaching the day time side of Earth very rapidly. Let's try to get a revised orbit and eta right away. Time is of the essence.
EDITOR: My whole point here, need an orbital. So far it seems we have been looking in the data to define this object based on what has so far been seen. What if the object is a new kid on the block--seemed to have burst out of nowhere; unique to my watch that the beasty is not plowing into the sun, but away? Also it does not seem to display a routine orbit, but an explosive and sudden formal entrance.
The stars always move to the right because SOHO is orbiting the sun. The reasons that this object is important are:
1) It moves in an opposite direction to the star field.
2) It cannot be identified as a known solar system planet.
3) It is seen on several images over a long period of time.
4) It doesn’t appear to have a tail, which suggests it is not a comet.
THIS MUST BE IT
9/18/00 11:28:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: chergen@fortuna.lpl.arizona.edu (Carl Hergenrother)
Don, The mystery SOHO object is Comet 2P/Encke just a few days after perihelion.
Carl Hergenrother
Lunar and Planetary Lab
University of Arizona
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 Don wrote:
> Some friends of mine have found "something" on a SOHO image from the other day. It is moving against the movement of the stars. And get brighter as you watch. Is there any way to come up with an orbit from a SOHO image?>
EDITOR: the Mt. Graham International Observatory is located on Mt. Graham in the Pinaleno Mountains near Safford , Arizona. The observatory site is operated by the University of Arizona.
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Date: 9/18/00 5:45:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Hi Kent: here are a few observations about Comet Encke: from a website on Biblical Astronomy. http://www.stonecircle.com/~rdotson/hsb/astron70.htm
The Babylonian account of the Flood stated that the judgment came from the direction of Taurus the Bull, which is also the home of Orion and the Orionid meteor showers. Comet Encke, from which the bet-Taurid showers originate, has a period of 3.3 years (1/10 of a messianic cycle, 33 years. The meteor shower occurs in the sign of Taurus the Bull which has an ancient association with the Day of the Lord. According to the Babylonian account of the Flood, the judgement unleashed upon Noah's generation came from the direction of Taurus. The 1908 Tunguska explosion involved a fragment of Encke and was a "warning shot" of the approaching judgement.
Not all agree: 18, 2000 at 02:34:57 PM EDT
Posting: I don`t think that`s Encke; last time it was on SOHO it took 2 1/2 days to move out of the SOHO view...
EDITOR: something troubling with the "official" Encke-designation. The object blasted into view, moved off the SOHO field in a day. Perhaps the bogy is one of the Encke entourage, sub-comets and earth-crossing asteroids. From the astroarts simulation of Encke it looks still to be in the SOHO field, but very VERY dim, total opposite side of sun.
Suddenly the media is going asteroid-ape.
ABC: Space Invaders Earth Needs Asteroid Defense System, Say Scientists
CNN: Experts call for new telescope to assess asteroid risk
Date: 9/18/00 6:49:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Kent: Another media coincidence? Sci-Fi Channel showing "Asteroid" movie Tuesday night. Promo of the movie shows newscaster announcing: "The inevitable has happened."
EDITOR: wonder why Hergenrother and allegedly Biesecker are so quick to make these Encke-designations? Seems like comets in the solar system have been behaving...strangely, breaking up, disappearing from the roster.
Have a solar anomaly seen today on the C3; although of the single frame "ccd-spike-type," it looks more where the astroarts simulator depicts Encke to actually be.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/javagif/gifs_small/20000918_2018_c3.gif
Anomaly on 9/18 20:18 C3
10:01:23 AM 09/19/00
Good morning STEADMAN,
I've been trying to spot 2P/Encke since it first became visible in the C3 on September 6th. I have a 20" high resolution monitor but do not have a high speed connection, so the large movies take a very long time to download and I was unable to spot the comet in the small movie. The first time I saw the comet was when you posted the movie, great job btw!.
I was using the 2P/Encke simulator (the one you have on the comment page) to track the comet on any given day. The following is a report by report sighting by Douglas Biesecker, from NASA/GSFC, Emergent Information Technologies, Inc.
September 6, 2000 @ 21:40 UT "Comet 2P/Encke is visible, though just barely in LASCO C3. It's approaching the Sun, moving right to left. If you can spot it, then consider yourself an expert at examining the LASCO images. Sorry, that's all the help I'm going to give you."
September 11, 2000 @ 15:15 UT "Encke is now in C2! We've seen it in C2 and also with SOHO/UVCS instrument."
September 11, 2000 @ 19:40 UT "It will be leaving the C2 field today."
September 14, 2000 @ 20:20 UT "Has 2P/Encke undergone an outburst?"
From these reports we can get a feel for the speed, it took 5 days from the time Encke entered the C2 (on the right hand side) to reach the C2 and it spent Sep. 11th there. Three days after it left the C2 it had an outburst, it was about 3/5ths the way from the Sun to the left edge of the C3, right where your movie shows it. If we look at the times on the movie photos and compare them to the UVCS Lightcurve time plot we can see they match.
Well to make a long story short, Oops!! To Late:o)
I think this is Comet 2P/Encke.
EDITOR: As you see in my web presentations:
I am not the finder of the actual image on the C3, but have simply been trying to direct traffic as well as dig from my own archives and add and solicit research. I received this note from the discoverer [C3} and forward here.
Date: 9/19/00 6:53:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time
"Kent, Have a question regarding the confirmation of comet 2p/encke. Did these astronomers actually view the images and figure orbitals? Or did they just look up from a list of soho flybys and say " oh yea thats it". At the very least from the input I have received from all quarters it would appear likely that the composition and or orbit of the comet was changed during its recent flyby of the sun. So am still most interested in as precise as possible orbital calculations based solely on the C3 images. Whether a changed orbit would have any effect on earth is still unclear to me."
Jeff from Houston
P.S. I referred Jeff to your analysis [Phaeton]
Date: 9/19/00 6:35:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time
I note that this 2000 QS7 asteroid crossed Mars's anti-solar point on about July 13,2000, which is the near the date one speculative theory has placed Phobos as having had an orbit-changing rendezvous with Venus.
Comet-Like Body Beyond Pluto Orbit Intrigues Viewers
The unexpectedly varied surface of a wayward piece of space debris has given Hubble telescope astronomers new insights into the characteristics and behavior of a ghostly population of faintly observed comet-like bodies that lie just beyond Pluto's orbit.
Mysterious Comet Encke 1/5/94
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09/17/00 at 1:41 pm
How about THIS!!...Comet 2P/Encke was just visible in the LASCO/SOHO C3 just two days ago!! "By 1940, Harvard Astronomer Fred L. Whipple had adduced comet Encke as a remnant of larger parent body which had been in a short period (around 3.3 years) low inclination (3.6 - 16 degree) orbit for between five and twenty thousand years; a long present spectacle for our ancestors as the comet progressively broke up creating the still active Taurid meteor streams (F.L. Whipple 1940)." Comet 2P/Encke may have just broken up again on September 14th (see the NASA Sungrazer site)....too weird!! more |
9/19/00 10:29:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time
CLICK FOR MPEG: This 0.9 MB mpeg movie of Near Earth Asteroid 2000 RD53 was captured during its near pass of Earth on Sept 17, 2000 by T. Puckett & G. Dowdle at the Puckett Observatory in Georgia, USA. The animation, which was recorded onto a CCD through a 0.6 meter telescope, consists of 126 two-second exposures. The field of view is 12.8 x 12.8 arcminutes, and the asteroid is 13.4th magnitude. Also see this article
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EDITOR: again the media is suddenly
washed with asteroid stories. This from The Times, Britain, strong words,
strong implications:
Asteroids could shut down Earth URGENT international action is needed to reduce the risk of a large asteroid striking Earth, a government panel of experts said yesterday. The danger of a catastrophic impact is so great that any private company incurring comparable risks would fail British safety standards, the Near Earth Objects Task Force said. more |
No fewer than five sizable space rocks have flown past our planet since the beginning of September -- three of them in the last four days.
AFTER the Event as Seen on the SOHO C3 9/20/00 16:18
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In a message dated 9/23/00 1:06:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ANON writes: << Did I miss something? Where is all the info on this incoming bogey? Or was it incoming bogus? >> EDITOR: Still a mystery. No takers on the orbital calculation based solely on C3 data. NASA and University of Arizona said, Comet Encke, which seemed to quell the challenge, although input still most sought. Candidates: 1. Encke 2. Near Earth Asteroid 2000 RD53 3. 2000 QW7 4. None of the above This is where it stands. Many of these investigations end up in no final conclusion, alas. Kent 9/23/00 C2 23:50 Whatever this is the forward position is ominous.
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