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7/18/01 EVENTS Okay, finally slept last night, late-start, ready, get-set, GO



Taliban Says to Engage in Holy War Against U.S.

Expert - Russia Knew In Advance...Encouraged  Citizens To Cash Out Dollars




9/18/01 06:42 Sun Cruiser

Date: 9/18/01 9:19:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Hey Kent,

Here's one of those near-miss stories with a  possible lead to suspects -

On the morning of 9-11, a woman was riding in a  gypsy cab heading downtown to the WTC. (Gypsy cabs are hacks for hire -not a typical yellow cab, but usually a town car type vehicle). At around 8:30, the driver, apparently a  middle eastern type as so many NYC cabbies are, gets a call on radio, and after a few words, pulls over abruptly and tells the woman to get out, saying, "I cannot drive you to the World Trade Center now." No other explanation, although it appears the man was warned at the last minute to avoid the WTC. Possible link to terrorist network?

Near-miss stories continue to come in. Here's my favorite so far:

A man arrives for work on the 80th-something floor of the WTC at 8:00 AM. To his surprise, he is met at the  elevator by two security guards who inform him that he has been fired. They escort him to his desk to clean out his personal effects. All the while, of course, he is  distraught over losing his job so unexpectedly. The security  guards then accompany him down the elevator to the ground floor.

The man walks out the lobby, outside, and looks up to see the first  airliner come in. He, of course, escapes with his life.

You never never know.

A Million Prayers of Peace to be presented in Afghanistan, Iraq and Israel

Taliban willing to hand over Osama with conditions

Date: 9/18/01 11:14:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Wondering if some kind of attack is happening to internet...getting "pinged" every 30 seconds here..according to Zone Alarm I have installed. Looks like the site I showed you indicated no traffic at all...getting reports on forums of web busy-ness, not knowing why.  http://www.internettrafficreport.com/

Lebanon Shiite spiritual leader bans Muslims from war on any Muslim country

Muslim Chief in Britain Threatens Pakistan Leader

Subj: Tragic Attack:"Space-Based Weapons / Ballistic Missile Defense Irrational," Says Renowned Attorney Daniel Sheehan.
Date: 9/11/01 3:33:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:    csr@peaceinspace.com (ICIS - institute for cooperation in space)
Reply-to: agwebre@aol.com
To:    alw@peaceinspace.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                     September 11, 2001

Daniel Sheehan   415-479-7795
Dr. Carol Rosin   805-641-1999
MORE INFORMATION: http://www.peaceinspace.com


SAN FRANCISCO, CA. - In the aftermath of the tragedies at the
World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon in Washington, and
the downed airliner near Pittsburgh, Pa., renowned attorney Daniel
Sheehan, Director and General Counsel and Director of the
Institute for Cooperation in Space, has publicly spoken out, calling
"space-based weapons, ballistic missile defense irrational."

"Above all we should now realize that the expenditure of hundreds
of billions of dollars on the construction of an anti-ballistic missile
system (the so-called "missile shield") is clearly not a realistic or
potentially effective response to an event of this complex nature.
We should be on guard against those who would use this incident
as an irrational source of support for such an irrational program,"
Sheehan states.

"The expenditure of hundred of billions of dollars, or any
dollars at all, on an irrational missile shield system is most
certainly not to be included in how we respond," Daniel
Sheehan concludes.

Sheehan, a Harvard Law School graduate, who is famous for an
impressive body of legal work including the Karen Silkwood case,
Pentagon Papers case, Three Mile Island, and the Iran Contra
case, states, "At a point in time like this in the lives of our human
family it is essential that everyone remain calm, that we extend our
prayers and condolences to all of the families of those killed and
injured and pray for the recovery of those who are still in danger."

Sheehan continues, "It is equally important that we refrain from
resorting to threats of physical violence against those whom we
suspect may be responsible. However, it is essential that we
respond to tragic actions of this nature by accurately and calmly
assessing all of the factors which have contributed to its
occurrence and that we craft steps to be taken to prevent incidents
of this nature in the future."

"The policies of the US government and of a number of Middle
Eastern nations and the non-rational invocations of cultural values
have led to this complex tragedy," Sheehan says.

"Only a careful and rational analysis will demonstrate the degree of
respect that we must pay to those who have died today," says
Sheehan.  "The period of mourning for our dead must be
characterized by a calm and responsible analysis of what we must
do to prevent a reoccurrence of such a tragedy and what we must
do to begin to untie the complex knots of policy which have led to
this tragedy."

CORESEARCHER: (in response to your messages re: chinese/Russian troops/subs)
BARDSQUILL: Yea, dude named Captain ANON
CORESEARCHER: Hahaha CNN is denying that the Taliban has declared a Jihad (as reported by every other news source already)
CORESEARCHER: Rather, not CNN -- It's the "daily briefing" from the white house
BARDSQUILL: Duh, I'm not really War strategist (or football neither), but it seems to me that we are in a defensive-mode and not a good idea to go hiking off to foreign lands, especially Afghanistan who already kicked Russian-butt.
CORESEARCHER: Aye; but the CIA has had time to learn from the Russian's mistakes
CORESEARCHER: I figure we can probably carpet bomb the place w/B-52's and cut our losses
BARDSQUILL: wasn't too effective in Hanoi
BARDSQUILL: they just dove underground
CORESEARCHER: We need to use bunker-busters then :P
BARDSQUILL: Wonder what the Ruskies used?
CORESEARCHER: According to a couple sites I've seen, just air-to-ground attacks w/Hind's & other helicopters
BARDSQUILL: had report couple days ago about new super laser
BARDSQUILL: wipe out a whole city or a pet hamster
CORESEARCHER: hrm -- orbital?
BARDSQUILL: goes on a converted Boeing 747  
BARDSQUILL: don't know where I put the damn file
BARDSQUILL: linked somewhere
BARDSQUILL: oppositely:
Tragic Attack:"Space-Based Weapons / Ballistic Missile Defense Irrational," Says Renowned Attorney Daniel Sheehan.
CORESEARCHER: I've read it
BARDSQUILL: basic thorn in this whole scenario, never been answered effectively yet and opens door on conspiracy theory no matter what, is the fact that a goldurned commercial airline flew into the friggin Pentagon, KAHBOOM, EXCUSE ME GUYS, but this needs EXPLAINING!
BARDSQUILL: seems like everything else, bin Laden fever, is smoke and mirrors and massive psyops, which is in fact working VERY well
BARDSQUILL: But then the Barbarians did defeat Rome by painting themselves (amanita mushroom) blue, gulping Mead, sliding down the hills on hide-sledges and bonking their brains with war-hammers.
BARDSQUILL: Heh, my honorable fur-faced ancestors

Subj: did you hear that?!!

Date: 9/18/01 12:48:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Kent, I don't know if you heard it down your way, but up here near Everett we just had two jets (I'm assuming military) go SCREAMING past - very low and VERY LOUD!! I wonder if somthing's up?? Ruth

Date: 9/18/01 2:37:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Hi Kent:

Just logged on to the net ten minutes ago and my computer has been bombarded by port scans every ten seconds or less, so when I saw that you as well have been getting deluged, I thought it best to confirm something is going on with the net. When I do the reverse look-up with Arin I get alot of no name, no address, no account info available which is also rather strange, on top of actual addresses which in themselves suggest a widespread type of attack?? Going on scan number 50 in 16 minutes make that 51.

If you would like to see some of the people and or business that are scanning the networks I would be more then happy to supply the results if anyone would like to compare notes on who is doing the scanning. Zone labs ZoneAlarm is working quite well....

Date: 9/18/01 2:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Hi Kent, "some kind of attack" IS going on! Look here: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ju-18.09.01-000/ The most dangerous known worm, since 14 h MESZ (12 h UTC), nearly exactly 7 Days after the WTC-Attack!

Date: 9/18/01 3:51:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Congress mulls stiff crypto laws

"The encryption wars have begun. For nearly a decade, privacy  mavens have been worrying that a terrorist attack could prompt Congress to ban communications-scrambling products that frustrate both police wiretaps and U.S. intelligence agencies.Tuesday's catastrophe, which shed more blood on Americans oil than any event since the Civil War, appears to have started that process." (09/13/01)


Terrorism bill revives civil liberties debate

The Senate has already approved legislation that would make it easier for the FBI to get warrants to monitor electronic  communications. The Cato Institute and the ACLU have joined  other voices to warn against intrusions on individual rights.



Date: 9/18/01 3:10:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Kent, An acquaintance of mine's son is one of the physicians who assisted the wounded on Monday. He was caring for a dying firefighter who's last words were that he and others who were with him, who died, saw men strapped with explosives running towards and into the buildings.

Tavistock - The Best Kept Secret In America

This evening (Sept. 12, 2001) I watched a CBS Evening News special report with Dan Rather. He interviewed Milt Bearden, a retired high ranking CIA officer with "deep experience in the Sudan and Afganistan." Here he apparently directed bin Laden's covert CIA operation known as Maktab al-Khidamar-the MAK. Mr. Rather asked Bearden if he thought bin Laden was responsible for the terrorist "Attack on America." Bearden downright snubbed the possibility. Instead, he explained, a far more sophisticated intelligence operation had to be behind these precise coordinated attacks.

Dan Rather, committed to demonizing bin Laden, restated his concern.

"Look," Bearden surprisingly blurted, referring to the intelligence organization(s)responsible for the terrorist attacks, "if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden, they would invent one."

As soon as Bearden left the set, Rather returned to demonizing bin Laden

Flight school says FBI trailed suspect prior to hijackings

Date: 9/18/01 9:02:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Stern-Intel (Canada). A US military intelligence source revealed details of an internal intelligence memo that points to the Israeli Mossad intelligence service having links to the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks.

If Osama bin Laden did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.

Anti-war forces muster in San Francisco Bay area  BioPort

'New war' to be fought with unprecedented secrecy

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, Pentagon sources said Monday.


7/19/01 EVENTS

Date: 9/19/01 5:19:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Hey Kent I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed this yet or not. I zoomed in on that album cover of the Coup Group (one with the two towers blowing up and look what it says on the radio in the guys hand. check it out

Bomb blast in Pakistan

Date: 9/19/01 5:51:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Hi Kent,

I found this interesting paragraph on the following web site. Maybe this is what happened.

"The World Trade Center has a resonant frequency of 10 hertz, ten cycles per second. Architects and engineers have to take this frequency into consideration in studying wind patterns in New York City, and build dampers into the foundation. If the World Trade Center bombers had been an elite U.S. military squad, they would have taken the whole building out with a small transducer emitting a 10-hertz signal. A 300-watt music amplifier would have been adequate, hidden away in some remote corner of the building. It may have taken hours or it may have taken days, in which the "bombers" would have been long gone."




Another first hand account of Tuesday's events in NYC, this one by a Muslim: "I was on my back, facing this massive cloud that was approaching, it must have been 600 feet off, everything was already dark. I normally wear a pendant around my neck, inscribed with an Arabic prayer for safety; similar to the cross. A hesidic Jewish man came up to me and held the pendant in his hand, and looked at it. He read the Arabic out loud for a second. What he said next, I will never forget. With a deep Brooklyn accent he said “Brother, if you don’t mind, there is a cloud of glass coming at us, grab my hand, lets get the hell out of here”. He helped me stand up, and we ran for what seemed like forever without looking back. He was the last person I would ever have thought, who would help me. If it weren’t for him, I probably would have been engulfed in shattered glass and debris."

Infowars.com -- Talk Radio's Alex Jones v. the New World Order

Hackers Retaliate World Trade Center Attack

"We're not going to deface their pages this time. We're going to down their Internet," said Dawgyg, a cracker from World of Hell.

Who did it? Foreign Report presents an alternative view


Saved by the Militia Arming an army against terrorism

Date: 9/19/01 11:35:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time

The voice recorder was initially said to be in ``fairly good'' condition. But federal officials said over the weekend that the National Transportation Safety Board (news - web sites) had difficulty extracting the recording and that the device was being sent to the manufacturer. WHY?

Deliberate disinformation

Date: 9/19/01 1:29:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:33:54 -0400

Hi all,

Thought I'd pass the enclosed along, sent to me by a sincere older friend, Erma, a former nun. I'm on her e-mail list and of course, lately, she'd been sending on material about last week's tragedy (and even as I'm writing this, I'm wondering what the outcome will be regarding a report about a situation on the ground at Dulles Airport on tonight's Northwest flight to Amsterdam, a flight I've made myself--the local Fox channel broke into a blessedly mind-numbing rerun of Seinfeld to show us a live-action shot of a motionless plane and alert us to the fact that there was a problem, but no one knows what. Let's hope it's a false alarm. ) Erma only sends out stuff she thinks is important, and I think she's right about this one, even though the story may be apocryphal. Our own bad guys are still with us, and it continues to be business as usual for them, so let's all be careful out there. "Sometimes that feeling in your gut is the voice of God. Trust your instincts."




This is a true story ...

About a month ago there was a woman standing by the mall

entrance passing out flyers to all the women going in.

The woman had written the flyer herself to tell about an

experience she had, so that she might warn other women.

The previous day, this woman had finished shopping, went

out to her car and discovered that she had a flat.

She got the jack out of the trunk and began to change the flat.

A nice man dressed in business suit and carrying a briefcase

walked up to her and said, "I noticed you're changing

a flat tire. Would you like me to take care of it for you?"

The woman was grateful for his offer and accepted his help.

They chatted amiably while the man changed the flat, and then

put the flat tire and the jack in the trunk, shut it and

dusted his hands off. The woman thanked him profusely,

and as she was about to get in her car,

the man told her that he left his car around on the other

side of the mall, and asked if she would mind giving him a lift to

his car.

She was a little surprised and she asked him why his car was on

other side. He explained that he had seen an old friend in the mall

that he hadn't seen for some time and they had a bite to eat and visited

for a while; he got turned around in the mall and left through the wrong

exit, and now he was running late and his car was clear around on the

other side of the mall.

The woman hated to tell him "no" because he had just rescued her

from having to change her flat tire all by herself, but she felt


Then she remembered seeing the man put his briefcase in her trunk

before shutting it and before he asked her for a ride to his car. She

told him that

she'd be happy to drive him around to his car, but she just remembered

one last thing she needed to buy. She said she would only be a few

minutes; he could sit down in her car and wait for her; she would be as quick as she could be.

She hurried into the mall, and told a security guard what had

happened; the guard came out to her car with her, but the man

had left. They opened the trunk, took out his locked briefcase

and took it down to the police station. The police opened it

(ostensibly to look for ID so they could return it to the man).

What they found was rope, duct tape, and knives. When the police

checked her "flat" tire, there was nothing wrong with it;

the air had simply been let out. It was obvious what the

man's intention was, and obvious

that he had carefully thought it out in advance. The woman

was blessed to have escaped harm. How much worse it would

have been if she had children with her and had them wait in

the car while the man fixed the tire, or if she had a baby

strapped into a car seat. Or if she'd gone against her judgment

and given him a lift.

Please forward this to all the women you know. It may save a

life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle.

I was going to send this to women only; but guys, if you

love your mothers, wives, sisters,

daughters, etc., please pass it on to them, as well.

Send this to any woman you know that may need to be reminded

that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it...



Pass this along to every woman you have access to. Never let

your guard down.


Subj: Fwd: Entering a Police State?" Official Warning--Publishers could get "An official visit to (their)residence(s) [Approaching Tyrrany?]
Date: 9/19/01 12:24:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Everyone with common sense understand the need for SOME restrictions on those things they choose to broadcast during a time of war. History has taught us that flapping mouths have sunk ships, yet one must always look at any restrictions of First Amendment freedoms as a dangerous portent. Why not simply ask for ALL Americans to cooperate, rather than covertly threatening them?

Recently I received this ominous note from an online source attributed to the SierraTimes editor, J.J. Johnson. He writes:

<<"Sources tell Sierra Times.com that information released deemed 'classified, in any manner may result in an official visit to your residence">>

I'd sure like to see this in writing, as a U.S. policy? I'd especially like to see what safeguards are in place to ensure that our First and Fourth Amendments rights are NOT violated. After all, many things might be deemed "classified" and they'd never have to tell us what we posted that was so classified. A frightening thought, being hassled, possibly arrested and never formally charged with anything more tangible than a breach of "national security" indicted only by some number and paragraph drawn from an as yet unknown or obscure Executive Order...or such.

Yet, this is but a portent of things to come. We are now approaching that time I have looked forward to with trepidation for almost 3 decades; since having visions of this time as a very young man. Soon the America that I used to know, and that America my children may NEVER know, will cease to be. The dream that once was America, will fade into a distant memory. Our immediate future holds the promise of chaos and anarchy, an American war with China—fought on our own soil—and the eventual life and death struggle to prevent global totalitarianism from becoming a living reality.

We will become used to conditions of "martial law," death and carnage, human insensitivity and a loss of freedoms unparalleled in our times. Under such conditions as imposed by states of "emergency," our basic assumptions of what we can expect as State and Federal citizens will end forever. These are truly sad times we enter now. The only thing I can offer is the hope that through a change of heart on the part of every man woman, the inevitable can be avoided. But first we must drag the dark conspiracies, the plans and schemes of the evil ones, into the light of day. Exposing those who manipulate us towards their ends may be the only way the vast majority of us brave enough to risk all in order to do precisely this.

Peace...through light.


Sierra Times Update

An Important Notice from Sierra Times.com

For Tue 09.18.01 15:00 Sierra Time

Another milestone in history and technology is being reached, and I believe

it is time to address this serious issue. It is my sincere hope that other

Internet outlets adhere to what follows, and engage in a policy of


For the first time in history, a 'wired world' is going to war. If we in

America are not careful, this can become a double-edged sword.

As Internet users know, news breaks here first and fast, and we all have a

zeal for getting the information, and getting it out to the public in a

timely manner. But the Internet is also known for people to obtain bits of

information - truthful or otherwise, and translate such information into

different meanings. I fear things may come up in the near future that best

be addressed BEFORE they happen.

My primary issue is that of troop movements, and preparations of military

operations from U.S. Soil. Like many others, Sierra Times.com has eyes and

ears across the nation - and in other countries as well. This message is to

let the Sierra Times Staff, its readers, message boards and other outlets


'CLASSIFIED' unless authorized by the Department of Defense Public Relations

or equivalent office. We ask that others follow suit.

Sources tell Sierra Times.com that information released deemed 'classified,

in any manner may result in an official visit to your residence. The

Internet makes this temptation by knowing or unknowing users that much

easier. This is especially pertinent for online military personnel.

National Security is an issue that must be important to all of us. Sierra

Times.com also cautions that Internet users are wary of what is transmitted

even in private digital communications. Foreign operatives have proven their

ability to penetrate even government web sites and electronic transmissions

in the past. In the current State of the Nation, always remember that we

have American personnel in the field, and we can safely assume that enemy

eyes will be on the Internet.

Thank you,

J.J. Johnson - Sierra Times Editor & Chief

This Message is archived at:


Will the Laws Fall Silent?


Date: 9/19/01 4:11:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time September 19, 2001

4:10pm PDT


I have taken a closer look at the sequence of pictures at http://drudgereport.com/flash91.htm and have made a few calculations. I need to emphasise that these calculations are rough and are intended to give a "ballpark" idea of the speed of the object in question.

First, I will list my assumptions:

-the object is much closer to the towers than to the camera

-the vertical plane in which the object travels is roughly parallel to the viewing plane

-the face of the tower facing the camera is approximately 230' wide (I could not find exact dimensions, so I made this estimate based on floorspace and the fact that the towers are not square but rectangular with the wider face to the camera)

-the object maintains a constant velocity

-the object travels in a straight line, or nearly so

-the scan speed of the camera is standard: 1/30 sec.

I measured the change of distance between the objects various positions from frame to frame and change of distance overall, making several calculations. The highest estimate for the speed of the object was about 3730 feet/sec which is about 2540 miles/hr, the lowest estimate for the speed of the object was 3040 feet/sec which is about 2070 miles/hr. This would indicate that the object was travelling at approximately Mach 3 or 3 times the speed of sound. THEREFORE, if these calculations are reasonably close, the object could NOT have been a piece of debris since the aircraft was travelling no faster than 350 miles/hour. The speed is consistant with an air to air missle.

I urge those with better computer equipment to check these calculations as well as to check the accuracy of my assumptions. I reiterate that this is only the roughest of estimates.

Date: 9/19/01 4:06:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Kent, just thought I'd let you know that I have a close relative who produces a local news show on a station affiliated with a national news network. He was working when the first raw footage came in on the wires after the first plane hit. He said that in the very first reports he saw (before anything was censored, edited and put on national television) there was at least one report of a bomb or bombs in the lower part of the building. After that, nothing about it, and he couldn't understand why. I tried to explain it to him......

Date: 9/19/01 4:07:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time


According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the English language: "Fascism is defined as a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with an ideology of belligerent nationalism."

Do we really want to live in the Fourth Reich?

(Research: Operation Paperclip)


"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." George W. Bush

Date: 9/19/01 6:34:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Great Quote by: Phoenix

"Therefore, the special problem which must be addressed by this series of EIR reports on the new international terrorism, is that, since persons such as Vice President George Bush, Oliver North, and numerous other U.S. and British officials, among others, were involved in helping to create it, there is a corresponding, high-level tendency, among certain authorities, to conceal key facts. The fact that the terrorism occurs, can not be hidden?not usually; what is covered up, is the fact that terrorism has a "mother," and also, occasionally, an "uncle.""  http://www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=11809

(ABCNEWS.com) — In the wake of last week's terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, one radio network is recommending its stations not play "lyrically questionable" music and has issued a list of 150 songs it says should be off the air for the time being.

Date: 9/19/01 6:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Kent, this pretty much destroys the argument of the armchair critics (disinformation specialists?) claiming NO bombs were detonated in the WTC -- I recall one of the "experts" saying, "there is no significant structural damage to basement levels," or words to that effect.


Wednesday September 19, 02:00 PM

New York subway at risk of major flood


Engineers are drawing up plans to prevent the flooding of New York's underground transport network, following the collapse of the World Trade Center. They fear water from the Hudson river could get into the vast seven floor basement and fill underground train tunnels all over the city.

"It could flood a lot of the underground system of New York," says Dan Hahn, of Mueser Rutledge Consulting Engineers, who are working on the disaster site with the New York Port Authority.

The World Trade Center's twin towers were destroyed on 11 September, when hijacked passenger jets were flown into the buildings. Over 5000 people are feared dead.

The basement of the World Trade Center housed seven floors of shops and parking, with an underground PATH (Port Authority Trans Hudson) train station at the bottom. Two train tunnels from the station head west out of the basement, beneath the Hudson river, where they join a network of other train tunnels. Two of these head back under the Hudson and terminate at 33 rd Street in midtown Manhattan, where they link with subway stations.

The bathtub

The basement, now full of debris, was built by first cutting four channels, about one metre wide and 21 metres deep into the ground and filling them with concrete. This formed what the engineers call the "bathtub"- a concrete-walled box that reaches down to sturdy bedrock. Soil and rock inside the 65,000 square metre area was then excavated to allow the basement floors to be built.

During building, the walls of the basement were secured against the pressure of surrounding soil and water by anchoring them to the bedrock with steel "tieback" cables. When completed, the floors brace this strain and the tiebacks are cut.

With the basement floors now destroyed or damaged, engineers believe only debris from the building is preventing the basement walls from collapsing in on themselves. If this happens, soil and water from the Hudson will start pouring in.

"If the walls collapse and the bathtub fills with water, it'll go straight out of the tunnels at the bottom," says Aine Brazil, managing principal with structural engineers, Thornton-Tomasetti Group who are working alongside Hahn. "That could send water right up to 33 rd Street and into the subway," she says.

Concrete plugs

Engineers say water is already running through the tunnels under the Hudson. Exchange Place, the first PATH station west of the river, is currently under 15 centimetres of water, though this may be from broken water pipes and fire hoses.

To prevent a widespread flood, Hahn has drawn up plans to get into the PATH tunnels that connect with the World Trade Centre site from across the Hudson. Once inside, the tunnels will be filled with huge concrete plugs designed to withstand a 25 metre head of water.

Even so, excavation of the basement - which will not be possible for weeks, according to Brazil - must proceed delicately. Hahn says that for every four to six metres they excavate, they will put in new tiebacks around the walls to support them.

The precaution should also prevent more damage to surrounding buildings, says Brazil. Soil around the walls will shift if the "bathtub" collapses, which could destabilise small or older buildings nearby, she says

DOVE: Huntsville et al - Truth Coming Out

Date: 9/19/01 8:39:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time

A strange coincidence??

On Friday, September 21, there will be a nationwide release of a new film entitled "Meggido", about the Anti-Christ and the coming Middle East War, resulting in Armageddon:

go to: http://www.freshspin.com/omegacode and http://www.8x.com/films/megiddo/std/index_html.shtml

Date: 9/19/01 3:30:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time

*** UPDATE: SPECIAL REPORT -- United Pilot Missing after Attacks Miami -- 18SEP2001 (AirlineBiz.Com) According to reports, the FBI is investigating the disappearance of a United Airlines pilot. Agents in Miami are attempting to find 41-year-old Anjum Pervaiz Shiekh. Records show that Shiekh flew from MIA to Buenos Aires two days before the attack. FBI agents say that he is connected to items including maps of the Northeast along with other material that is described as "potential terrorist paraphernalia". ABCNews said they were able to contact Shiekh by cell phone. Shiekh said he was in Florida and told them to contact UAL for more information. United Airlines declined comment. In other news: United joined US Airways and Continental saying they would lay off 20,000 employees. One of the hijacking suspect is reported to have met with an Iraqi intelligence official somewhere in Europe earlier this year. Several hijacking suspects logged on to the Internet in Broward County libraries. A nationwide precautionary advisory is in place for biological-warfare agents. One hijacker of American Flight 77 flew three training flights from a suburban Washington flight school a month before crashing the jet into the Pentagon. FAA records show a Hani Hanjoor as receiving a commercial pilot's license in 1999 and listing a post office box in Saudi Arabia as his address. The FAA is considering a staggered reopening of Reagan National. A search of a Virgin 747 from Heathrow turned up nothing in Newfoundland after a bomb threat. The FBI is investigating whether other airplanes may have been targeted for hijacking as it seeks to question more than 190 people. American accused Argenbright Security of assigning new employees to screening checkpoints without any training, falsifying prospective employees' tests, and not conducting background checks. One screener was hired despite 23 arrests; another was arrested on kidnapping charges and convicted of drug violations stolen property and firearms possession. Delta Air Lines trained a new hire employee with 10 felony convictions for drug trafficking. In addition, Delta supervisors told employees to take felony convictions off their application if they wanted to be hired by the airline and later instructed the employees to leave the convictions off any airport, Customs, or USPO I.D. application request.

Date: 9/17/01 11:41:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time

This was not a bogie, but one of many traffic helicopters that fly up and down the corridor reporting the traffic patterns. After all it was morning rush. I had the personal the misfortune of having the best view of the events from our Jersey City office.

Date: 9/19/01 2:30:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time

Hello I took these shots from CNN right off the tape they were running on TV. I noticed how the plane kept changing shape, how the front of the plane looked different in the air all around the plane are glowing balls of light; spheres on the buildings also after the plane enters the building waiting on the other side of the building is this object hovering in the sky . It is not a helicopter!


NEWCOMERS: this effort, although many send reports, boils down to one old frazzled guy, me, Kent.

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