PENTAGON HIT

9-11 HERE WE GO AGAIN

EDITOR: New info, disinfo, yay, nay? In ORBIT tradition, presenting all takes on the Pentagon explosion, more forthcoming. I realize the profound implications of such a study and do welcome all takes. Hopefully some military insiders will speak out, after all buddies inside the walls were wasted! Also we need additional sleuth towards: what happened to the passengers onboard 77? I realize the deep emotional concerns here, very sad, tragic! But towards the truth we must dare!

Comments, Victims

U.S. Army Military District of Washington website: relates to a Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise [MASCAL], carried out in October, 2000. The accompanying photograph is really of a cardboard tabletop model used in the drill. FARSHORES EDITOR: eyebrows raised here. An identical disaster simulation staged a year prior? Seems to me that someone had a very strong "premonition."

SHERLOCK BILL ON THE SLEUTH Pentagon Crash Site Photographers The C-130

WHAT THE  PENTAGON CRASH SHOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE

Date: 3/13/02 8:22:36 PM Pacific Standard Time KENT: PEOPLE LOOKING FOR COMPARISONS TO EVALUATE PENTAGON PLANE CRASH. REMEMBER JUMBO JET THAT CRASHED INTO AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN AMSTERDAM. HUGE PLANE, LOADED WITH FUEL, CRASHES INTO CONCRETE BUILDING. LOTS OF SURVIVORS, LOTS OF WRECKAGE, BITS OF PLANE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THERE WILL BE FILE PHOTOS SOMEWHERE. SEE: Crash jet contained depleted uranium

Date: 3/11/02 12:54:32 PM Pacific Standard Time

EXCERPT: Hi Kent, I was watching the news report at my parents house on Sept. 11th, just as the breaking report came that a TRUCK BOMB had just gone off in front of the Pentagon {in addition the tower hit}. The initial news footage showed a cloud of smoke billowing up from the building but it was from quite a distance away. There was no initial report that it was a plane... The entire world is being tricked into believing the American people stand behind what the Bush gov. is doing. The American people are being tricked into believing the Terrorists are just around the corner. The real enemy is the one doing the lying and the killing as usual. Funny how the lawful procedures for investigating airline crashes was not followed on Sept. 11th. That in itself is the smoking gun. We do not have a LAWFUL GOV. running the U.S.A. and they damn well know that is the truth. More

ARCHIVES 9/17: In the early morning of the explosion, a friend called me and told me that they had just seen on television that a number of the generals were found shot in the back in the Pentagon, even mentioning that some had been shot up to five times in the back.

John Bowman, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and a contractor, was in his office in Corridor Two near the main entrance to the south parking lot. "Everything was calm,' Bowman said. "Most people knew it was a bomb. Everyone evacuated smartly. We have a good sprinkling of military people who have been shot at."

August Pentagon fire

THE WTC TOWERS   COMMENTS   ANNEX   NEW ANALYSIS OF WTC FOOTAGE

EDITOR: ARE WE ALL MISSING THE POINT? MOST INTERESTING REPORTS:

Well you cannot expect standard Commercial Airline Pilots to know about (CLASSIFIED). OPS BLACKSTAR is Highly Compartmented, Secret Fire-Command & Control Platform System that flies out of Holloman AFB NM./FT. Huachuca, AZ (BLACKBAG OPS). Combine BLACKSTAR (Pilotless) and Thiokol's Corps. Portal Transport Systems (illegally downloaded by Wen Ho Lee, at Los Alamos), and You can control ANY AIRCRAFT THAT IS FBW.  Remember that OPS BLACKSTAR has broadcast dissemination capabilities to 100 Aircraft at one time (AWACS, ASARS, JSTARS, TENCAP, TROJAN SPIRIT, GUARDRAIL-CS, UAV's, SIGINT, TEAMMATE, TRACKWOLF, REMBASS, HUMINT, CI IMINT, MASINT, TECHINT, JTF, ARF-OR,  ACE, JIC, ACT) for an effective INTELLIGENCE BOS.  I have personally SEEN, OPS BLACKSTAR in operation.

THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES As an old and not so bold pilot, I became more convinced that the four commercial jets were choreographed by a "conductor" from a central source, namely an airborne warning and control system (AWACS). They have the electronic capability to engage several aircraft simultaneously, knock out their on-board flight controls by EMP (electro-magnetic pulsing) and assume command and remote control of these targeted aircraft.

Date: 3/17/02 8:01:53 AM Pacific Standard Time KENT -- FLASHdp http://www1.etl.noaa.gov/othr/atc.htm The East Coast OTH-B radar, with no modifications, could provide routine tracking and control of commercial air traffic in the crowded North Atlantic corridor. EDITOR: Caught a Snippet on History channel . Apparently they were trying to create a death ray in the 30s, and they said the death ray idea failed but out of it came RADAR!

WTC ANOMALY Whatzit? I can't tell either, except that it hit the tower going very, very fast.

EDITOR: even the above is still "thinking within boxes". I now believe that we are currently experiencing a deep re-write of reality, almost like a shift from one band of the space-time spiral to another. The physics does indeed seem to exist whereby things can be made to appear or not [by engineering the Schroedinger equation or by alchemically tripping a dark ritual, ie., 9-11]. Are we awakening? No, it does not seem so, but rather falling into a more dimly-lit region of the World of Shadows. Could this de-evolution be reversed? Why, of course, in a blink! But we must challenge all, our hero-worship, our primitive science, our gnarly warrior-gods blamed to rip the world apart from within the un-Holy Land. An impulse must be made deep within DNA -Consciousness-- to flush it all and re-dream. It has all come down to the responsibility of the unfettered, solitary and fragile human traveler, the true Seer.

Date: 3/12/02 9:41:58 AM Pacific Standard Time

Dear Kent, Greetings from Skyway, WA...Read your editorial:

I agree with you completely. But maybe the darkness we have sunk into seems to is a force that is making us work harder at finding truth, as never before. It sucks, that's for sure, but I have spent my life as a seeker, and when I look back on those years to now, what were they but Alan Watts and home made Zen?

Now it seems things have gone dark and the net result, at least for me, is a new way of thinking about reality that is a power of thought I never had before.

Hard to explain, but the depth of the fall around us, for at least some of us, seems to preclude our fall into fear with the mass. We seem to have a new strength of conviction that before was quess work. Suddenly a spiritual life is no longer a thing we read about in paperback books, something to aspire to and fail at over and over. After all, we bought the book at the mall.

Now its a necessity, it's everywhere.

Date: 3/12/02 12:11:56 AM Pacific Standard Time

What I believe we are witnessing is the eternal battle of good vs evil, as evolution vs devolution, held on a cosmic scale where meaning is everywhere, in everything, where forces of dark and light are locked inn seeming mortal combat. more

Pentagon crash frames: Was it a 757, F-16, or Cessna F172?

Date: 3/11/02 6:52:26 AM Pacific Standard Time

From: SHERLOCK BILL

http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/unimaginable.html  Kent: in your absence, this 'eschatus' guy has been examining the plane seen in the first frame, where a tail appears plainly. It seems likely that only a small Cessna-type private plane crashed into the Pentagon. And that's the reason an explosion had to be planted at the Pentagon timed to go off a fraction of a second before the plane got there. THAT WAY, the plane could slink in the Pentagon without trouble and get lost in the debris. You'll like this page Kent. He analyzes photos like you would. Naturally, everyone calls this guy a nutcase, but I analyzed it myself too. The tail isn't the right shape for a 757.

Date: 3/11/02 1:08:02 AM Pacific Standard Time

Dear Kent,

Wow I really found that Pentagon Footage you just posted to be quite incriminating. The first thing that is obvious is that fuel was indeed the major componet of explosive. This evident in the color of flame and smoke. I also noticed besides the absence of a plane in the footage the direction of the explosion itself is obviously a stationary or very very slow moving object such as a truck . A jetliner at best would at least had to have a rate of speed around 190 mph and I would guess in reality it would have been around 225-300 and that explosion would have ripped through and gone into the surrounding corrirdors and forward not up and evenly dispirsed as we saw there. We are being lied to people....when are we going to mobilize and start to bring this beast back to earth? Are you going to continue to demand more proof? I think a march is in order...anyone interested let Kent know and let's see just how many of us are sick of what we are seeing and hearing and are also willing to do something about it

Date: 3/8/02 3:12:23 PM Pacific Standard Time

Taking into account the angle covered in the surveillance camera photo (yellow lines) The scale of the 575-200, (white)

The analysis of the structural damage which shows that whatever hit, had to have impacted at an approach close to 90 degrees, (Red lines) The photo also indicates that the 20' tail (whose tip would be 44'6" off the ground when parked) is so low upon approach, a 3' post almost obscures it.

The question is, how did that large mature tree (green circle) directly in the flight path and barely out of camera range manage to remain unscathed? Or did the wing pass under the branches and just miss the trunk? Pretty good flying for a flunked-out cessna pilot.

Subject: CNN REPORT TODAY
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:26:15 -0600 (CST)
From: (Patt Latham)
To: apfn@apfn.org

HI;
Someone must be monitoring your site. Today for the first time, The
Pentagon has felt it had to show pictures of a plane ramming their
building.

I taped it, as Wolf Blitzer was showing Jamie McIntire's Pentagon
pictures allegedly taken off a Pentagon camera.

I put it on slow motion and saw no plane. Not only that, it has been
'messed' with. It shows clips. It looks like 3 clips. The same pictures,
or shots with Jamie McIntire were shown next on the Moneyline show. The
same questions asked with the same answers. Jamie pointing to where
you're supposed to see a plane coming along the ground about 2 feet
above the ground before it hits the Pentagon. I have yet to see a plane.
If there is one, there certainly is not a passenger plane. What it looks
like to me is a release of material before an explosion. Like the
pressure couldn't hold it any more and spewed it out. This film must
have just been doctored for our use. There is no plane in the film.
There is not even a semblence of a plane. There only remains the lie.

Patt Latham

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HERE'S THE PLANE! FLIGHT 77 ? (ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA)
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GO HERE FOR MORE PIC'S AND DETAILS:
LOOKS LIKE F-16?
http://www.humanunderground.com/11september/unimaginable.html

Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:39:54 -0600 (CST)
Re: PENTAGON PIX

Hi;
Thanks for the pictures. That's what CNN is showing on tv.
However, I switched back to tv, from web tv and ran the tape back to the
moment of impact on slow, slow motion, and there's no plane! There's
nothing the size of a Boeing passenger plane anywhere near that outer
wall.

What Jamie Mc Intire was pointing to, and what you have circled, is not
a Boeing passenger plane the size of one we see at the airport. Those
are tall. There is nothing hitting the building from the outside in that
picture sequence coming from the Pentagon. The fact that they're feeling
like they have to show it tells me there's some fear and pressure there.
Because they never bothered to show this until it hit the internet that
there was no plane hitting the Pentagon. We're talking 6 months ago with
no pictures releases. Why all of a sudden now?

Too many people are dying in this war. How can we stop it? I have
written to my reps, and sen. but no one is listening.
They can't seem to see where we're heading.

Kindest personal regards,
Patt Latham
Riverside, Tx.
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Moment of impact at the Pentagon on 9-11-01 — David E. Parsons
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The Hunt For Flight 77
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Proof Pentagon 9/11 Attack was Inside Job: dove_of_o
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WHERE IS FLIGHT 77? - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
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What Really Happened 9/11 - FREE Report/Book
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Re: The Hunt For Flight 77
IF A PLANE HAD HIT THERE WOULD BE A PICTURE OF IT DAMAGED
SOMEWHERE. iT IS STANDARD PROCEEDURE FOR PICTURES TO bE TAKEN.
tHERE IS NO PLANE WITH THE FIRE TRUCKS PUTTING OUT THE INITIAL
FIRE THAT IS THE KEY. tHEY DON'T HAVE ONE SO THEY ARE TRYING TO
bullshit you. sAY SHOW ME THE pICTURE & DON'T FALL FOR THIS LIE BY
THE pROOPAGANDA CHANNELS fOX & WHATREALLYHAPPENED.COM
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     I flew the Boeing 747 JUMBO Jet., but not this 757. I retired before this
     came into service. But, from what I see( or don't see) looking at
     these pictures; its hard to pick out aircraft parts. The wingtips
     alone would have sheared off and bounced back into the street,
     the engines (2) would have penetrated deeper into the wall and
     framing structure further than any other part making a
     definate hole. The belly of the aircraft contains, fuel
     tanks,baggage, mail bags, and cargo; none of this type debris
     can be seen. Assuming 8600 gallons of kerosene fuel @ specific
     gravity of approx 6.9 lbs/gal(temperature considered) weight of
     the fuel would be close to 60,000 lbs and would splatter
     everywhere. Where are the seats,those with passengers buckled
     in would be ripped our of the floor, for that matter, where are
     the passengers? I have never seen an aircraft accident where the
     aircraft evaporated upon impact, water,land or buildings. If
     these pictures were taken within 3 days after 9/11, there would
     have been definate remains of parts. I don't see any. However,
     digital computer photos can be doctored up to suit any lawyers
     cause.
     From the photos shown, there ain't no fly in this pudding.
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`In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.'

Subj: Re: Flight 77 - I saw no plane in the TV film

Date: 3/8/02 12:29:12 AM Pacific Standard Time \

Subject: I saw no plane in the TV film

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While I have concentrated my recent research and writing via a three-part series focusing upon the insider trading as it relates to prior knowledge and financial profit from 9/11 deaths on Mike Ruppert's www.copvcia.com site, I too am concerned about the what looks to be "management" of the news film I watched regarding the Pentagon attack.

APFN's recent focus upon the Pentagon plane concerns some troubling issues. My two viewings of the TV clips of the reporter-described "plane hitting the Pentagon," clearly showed no film of any plane hitting the Pentagon--only the fire-bomb-like explosion in a series of seemingly edited clips.

The only problem (if I accept that no airliner hit the Pentagon) is "What happened to the missing jet said to have hit the Pentagon?" And that's a key issue to say the least!

One friend told me that "the planes are made of aluminum and the impact and temperature of the fire melted the plane down." Then another friend said  "When was the last time you saw photos of ANY plane crash where there were no visible pieces of the plane left surrounding the crash site?" I would personally answer "never" to that one. There are always parts recovered.....at least some pieces. So, Houston, we have a problem.

I have never written an email to APFN; however, every time I turn around, another "problem" question surfaces regarding 9/11. What is bothering most of us is that no government official is even raising the issue--let alone asking the questions. This is just another one of them; but I am still trying to figure out where the plane went if it did not "melt" in the crash, leaving no evidence, pieces, or whole parts, etc.

Clearly, no Member of Congress is questioning these "Conspiracy" theories, to which they are often referred. Victim families and sympathetic, yes patriotic, Americans have to hope that the CIA-led "intelligence" joint committee will ask the hard questions--no chance--since they are more concerned with looking at the "process" of security lapses rather than finding out the "identities of the perpetrators." (foreign or domestic)

The writings of Jared Israel regarding the airplane stand-downs and presidential inaction are clearly the most damning and obviously visible problems that any thinking American should immediately pose. I am hopeful that he stays focused on that problem because the mainstream media might eventually pick up on that story. And widespread publicity will certainly create a firestorm once people start thinking about the evidence he raises on http://www.tenc.net

But isn't is sad that mainstream outlets are not asking these questions.

I am hopeful, however, that this time the internet will play a major role in getting to the truth. Americans are truly fed up with the secrecy and management of the news. I have received emails about Michael Moore's new book, "Stupid White Men," playing to huge crowds at bookstores in the normally conservative enclaves in the Republican West and far-West. (He has not yet toured our more urbane, liberal Northeast yet.)

But the book is in its 9th printing in just 5 days of release! If that is true, Moore must be saying something, because he is what Chris Matthews calls "a real lefty!" It is not often that California conservatives cotton to liberals like Moore--let alone wait for hours for him to sign a book. I may just go out and get a copy to see if he is joining APFN in asking the tough 9/11 questions. Keep up the great work, APFN. This 9/11 thing is NOT over yet--not by a long shot.

Best wishes,

Freelance writer

(WorldNetDaily.com, FTW-copvcia.com, NewsMax.com, NarcoNews.com, and  JudicialWatch.org.)

[APFN] Thanks Tom... I hope your inspiring message will awake the APFN

NETWORKERS TO CONTACT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

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FLIGHT 77: CNN REPORT TODAY

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Click HERE for videotape sequence of Flight 77 crash at the Pentagon on 9-11-01

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>From the photos shown, there ain't no fly in this pudding.

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Where is the plane, Flight 77 -

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm

911 - TERROR IN AMERICA

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`In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.' Without justice, their is JUST_US!

Date: 3/7/02 8:49:51 AM Pacific Standard Time

http://www.usatoday.com/graphics/news/gra/gflightpath2/flash.htm a friend sent this too me i found it interesting considering the articles i've seen posted on orbit still why would the flight 77 transponder be the only one of 4 disabled?????

Date: 3/11/02 9:02:09 AM Pacific Standard Time

In my opinion it appears that a couple or three ballistic missiles hit the Pentagon creating the massive fireball.

Date: 3/11/02 11:18:17 AM Pacific Standard Time

Kento: Hope the wedding went off ok... Now, this Pentagon Jumbo - more like Mumbo Jumbo ! - scenario..Important info - correct me if I am wrong, but let me take everyone back to that sad day...If I recall someone mailed the following day to say that he had been watching CNN early morning on the day all these events occurred....apparently some time prior to the WTC hit, CNN was in the process of reporting "an incident" at the Pentagon. It was reported that a few senior military officials had been involved in some internal fracas, involving the shooting and subsequent death of a number of military. Naturally the story was buried immediately after news of the WTC, and the next we hear of the pentagon is flight 77.

Now, if true, could there have been some dissent with the "white" military? who knows, but perhaps you can dig up that mail or the person who saw that piece of news...I believe it was on your site that week.

Just a thought...another piece of the cosmic jigsaw!!

EDITOR: See warrant5.htm  August Pentagon fire

Date: 3/11/02 12:54:32 PM Pacific Standard Time

Hi Kent,

I was watching the news report at my parents house on Sept. 11th, just as the breaking report came that a TRUCK BOMB had just gone off in front of the Pentagon {in addition the tower hit}. The initial news footage showed a cloud of smoke billowing up from the building but it was from quite a distance away. There was no initial report that it was a plane.

Considering all of the experts in this country who have gone to crash sites and removed even the smallest pieces of a downed aircraft and re-assembled the destroyed aircraft to determine what went wrong; it is appalling that such a damning lie with no physical evidence?? can be believed. There is no still shot in that security footage showing an airliner hitting the Pentagon. The damage shots clearly show that there is no damage to the Pentagon which can be or was physically caused by flight 77? Where did that flight really go? Where are the bodies? Where are the carefully reconstructed pieces of the aircraft itself? The number of gaps in the physical evidence clearly demonstrates there must be a very heavy handed top-down muzzle being applied to restrict information. The real war is being fought against us...people who ask too many questions...people who can see quite clearly that the Bush administration is obviously not in control of the U.S. government but is simply following orders from those that are and have taken over our country.

Sadly. the events of Sept. 11 were a diversion, as is the phony war in Afghanastan to keep the American people glued to the wrong end of the stick. See we are beating these bad terrorists to a pulp and all is well. Never mind the fact that we are lying through our collective media teeth about the actual reasons.

Apparently if a lie is so big and so bold that to admit that it is in fact all a damn lie and is too much for people to handle then they [media inc.?] will continue that tactic until they have achieved their actual goals. And it looks pretty grim. The entire world is being tricked into believing the American people stand behind what the Bush gov. is doing. The American people are being tricked into believing the Terrorists are just around the corner. The real enemy is the one doing the lying and the killing as usual. Funny how the lawful procedures for investigating airline crashes was not followed on Sept. 11th. That in itself is the smoking gun. We do not have a LAWFUL GOV. running the U.S.A. and they damn well know that is the truth.

Subj: Fw: In what appears to be a major disinformation exercise  Date: 3/11/02 12:26:26 PM Pacific Standard Time From: To: File:

Hi Kent,